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what's up guys i am caleb giddings

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keep arm jerk and you are watching

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another episode of gun day brunch brought

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to you by tourist usa and guns

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dot com tourist usa we make reliable

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guns we make affordable guns we make

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awesome guns and guns dot com while

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they make content they sell guns they

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do

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all sorts of fun stuff currently the

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slogan at tourist usa is that i'm

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just gonna start throwing at people is

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affordable doesn't mean cheap and i actually

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almost almost the other thing that i

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that i'm going to put out there

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and this is the platform to put

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this out here i'm gonna put it

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out in the first what thirty seconds

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of this episode that i was having

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this conversation the other day with the

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media

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guy and they asked about like the

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affordability of our guns and i'm like

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look man everybody has a every law

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abiding citizen has a right to own

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a reliable firearm for personal protection concealed

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carry home defense whatever that is we

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just so happen to make one that's

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two hundred and fifty dollars and works

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so if somebody has got two hundred

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and fifty bucks and that's all they've

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got and they're choosing between

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when you know a five hundred dollar

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gun and making a car payment or

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two hundred and fifty dollar gun and

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actually being able to pay their bills

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they should get that gun and if

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you don't like that and you don't

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support that maybe you don't like the

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second amendment as much as you say

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you do on the internet but anyway

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that's a whole different episode that we

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could do today's episode caleb

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for a well done read this time

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just yeah absolutely still we did not

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trip and fall this time excellently done

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which means the next read i'm just

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going to each phase users gotta be

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a flaming dumpster it's going to be

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ready when the next episode will be

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titled kobe's last flight and

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that big but just i as if

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out of my mouth too soon to

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say i'm glad we don't monetize this

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though

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guys that are going to church yet

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they're going to be like we you

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have to pay our utica like you

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have to pay us for hosting now

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so anyway

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this episode we're talking about fudd lore

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or fud zoo myths which is something

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that i just learned was a thing

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not too long ago but i've googled

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some of them and they're hilarious so

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we're going to talk about ones that

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you know ones that we don't like

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and i'm going to kick it to

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keith but first and we're going to

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we're going to messer and we're going

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to we're just going to go let's

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roll is roe the roe o'clock boys

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or the flood sewer myth in question

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the first one at least is the

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fact that i keep seeing it and

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i wish it would die in a

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fiery pit we need to bury this

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thing in somewhat

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stay in an unmarked grave and i'm

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like no marked grave we're going to

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put a grey market right over top

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of this and the great marker is

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going to say stop saying stupid shit

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stop telling people that racking a shotgun

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is the brown note for bad guys

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they just ship their parents and run

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away it's not racking a shotgun is

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a fun mechanical thing and it makes

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the happy chemicals go

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in my brain i like ranking pump

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action shotguns it's fun but at no

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point in time have i ever heard

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a shotgun rack and immediately felt my

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bowels urge to avoid themselves but that's

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because you're a law abiding citizen if

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you're a criminal well let's let's pivot

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to our resident criminal jack has a

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a shotgun racking ever made you poop

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your pants no but i told the

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guy i could tell the difference root

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shell going in and knock off which

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is true because it does actually sound

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different

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that is a that is a different

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noise here's a here's here's as a

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side note on the so like and

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i understand the deterrent you know people

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like to have deterrents right and we

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know what that is what that is

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that isn't for bag like it's not

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a real thing what that is is

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a say

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sales tactic that is a sales tactic

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from someone describing that a firearm is

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a defensive tool to someone who has

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not yet made the mental leap that

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the thing that this does for you

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is provide lethal force into an emergency

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situation that requires lethal force to resolve

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that's what that shot

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dundas for you what the racking noise

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what the what the selling of the

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racking noise as a feature

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to scare someone off is it's just

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it's just providing them this oh well

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i i won't have to shoot someone

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because this noise will get it done

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gets a half ass measure

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insurance it's a false assurance that oh

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i won't after i won't have to

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get this far and it's the similar

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false assurance that like hey if i

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just draw my gun and pointed at

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someone then they'll back down or they'll

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run away because nobody wants to be

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shot which all of us know that's

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not how that is not hobbies

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counters go the the person you're pointing

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the gun at has probably had that

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happen to them before that's one that

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i i really genuinely dislike is the

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the the people who say you know

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oh well most defensive gun uses don't

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involve a shot being fired and people

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are often scared off by the side

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of the gun and all of that

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that's true but i'm also not willing

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to gamble in my life that the

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guy that i point a gun at

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has never had a gun pointed at

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him before because to your point if

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you're being robbed by an actual professional

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criminal they've had a gun pointed at

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them at some point in their life

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and possibly even recreationally so we have

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to i i think that the

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the nobody wants to get shot and

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nobody wants to shoot people are both

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true statements well that last one is

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not entirely true

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most atheists

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fairly accurate statements however we're we're planning

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for extreme cases we're planning for extreme

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scenarios and we should be comfortable using

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the language there so i'm i wanted

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to die i want people to get

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the idea of racking a pump-action as

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a defensive tool like that this

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as a feature and not just a

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mechanical function of begun i want it

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to die i needed to die and

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we need to bury it in the

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marked grave of stop saying this shit

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and go ahead jack

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there's a reason why you wreck your

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shocker at the beginning you encounter it's

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not because it'll scare the other guy

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it's because you shouldn't have around loading

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your shotgun because they're most part not

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drop six

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that gun the the shotgun is not

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designed to be carried one of the

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chamber they're not voting for wire floating

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for the wrong way it will replicate

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a strict originally

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oh oops

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like

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could someone here that decided they don't

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want to mess with you yeah sure

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could also just as easily hear you

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start dialing nine one one and decide

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they don't want to mess with you

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they could rattle your door find it's

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locked then decide to silence there are

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a number of ways there are a

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number of preventative things that could happen

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why are you relying on this one

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you know what i want to know

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as sorry as an aside

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is what what evolutionary thing made it

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so that clicking noises from guns scratch

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an itch and all of our brains

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ooh why do we all have that

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cause everybody here leaching noise on this

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call and everybody who's listening to the

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show has that so i can explain

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it to you

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it's not guns it is

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the orientation from the beginning of time

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fahrenheit you were standing at your barbecue

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grill once you close your eyes imagine

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yourself crisp white vans your nitrous jaunts

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a kiss the cook lightly stained apron

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on your chest perfection and the burgers

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are just about ready to be pulled

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off of there you reach down for

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your tongues what do you do that

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click the test click click click

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clicks the reason why is you are

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assuring that your tool is about to

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work it's part of your process as

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a human being we do this since

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time in memorial look at spheres from

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the ice age and you will see

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how often they were retired

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to make sure staying on them because

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human beings

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we have these little digits spoke some

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are little worried about my book will

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be like to test things and we

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learned to check that

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we picked things up and test it

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make sure we fidget we do all

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sorts of little things with our hands

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to make sure tools are going to

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work and so when we hear that

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when we hear the mechanical thing work

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we have now had machines in our

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lives

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late roman era we could say that

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we can hear that we go or

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that that sounds like what it should

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sound like it's working that's what makes

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me happy i bet you when the

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ballista like clicked in and it locked

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into place people were like ooh love

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that sound i know the things ready

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to go

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okay that makes sense i am yeah

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that makes perfect sense and it's you

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know exactly why a sound for me

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for example a sound that i find

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comforting is when i'm doing like load

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and make ready on a on a

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stage with a revolver i will pull

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the hammer back just a little bit

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and spin the cylinder and the reason

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why i'm doing that is i make

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sure that in that

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the gun for the first six or

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eight or whatever shots i have i

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have no high primers so i know

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that i'm going to get at least

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six or eight or whatever the capacity

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of that guns loud noises out of

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it while i'm spinning that cylinder it

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makes a very pleasant little noise i

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like that may scratch in brain and

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it's because i and you know evolution

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generally speaking cause i knew my thing

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is going to work which interestingly revolver

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is working and not working brings me

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to my little piece of fud lore

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that drives me nuts because it is

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right in my wheelhouse right like i

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with the revolver guy you know i

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have i've done a very good job

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of branding myself into this position and

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i'm very happy about it and it

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drives me nuts when people

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are agreeing with me that revolvers are

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good and you know a that revolvers

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are a viable option for personal protection

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and but they agree with me for

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the wrong reasons right they agree with

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me because it'll say something that'll be

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out there for just a second is

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there anything more annoying than someone who

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is on your side

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but who's an absolute moron let me

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know that's my least favorite thing is

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when people agree with me but they're

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wrong i would rather you disagreed with

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me and and and make good solid

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points or disagreed with me and more

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stupid than agreeing with me and being

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wrong about it and like your agree

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me but you are you're agreeing with

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me for the wrong reasons like hell

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yeah i get it brother and we're

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all just here like no not like

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no that's not like that like yeah

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because revolvers don't or not that's not

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that's not why their revolvers are incredibly

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mechanically durable and we're no please no

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so roberts don't jam his mind right

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and it's obvious because one i dislike

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the word i i don't i don't

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really care for the word jam i

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don't care if people use it because

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it's universally understood when you're talking about

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a failure to complete the cycle of

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work yeah and that's like i i

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try to not use it because i'm

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i'm trying to be precise with my

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language but if you said if you

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come to me and said my gun

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jammed i would immediately be able to

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intuit what that means it means that

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your gun failed to complete the cycle

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of operations then we can go figure

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out what you mean by jam and

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fix your problem right nope no issues

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with that notion with other people using

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it i tried

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to not use it but that's a

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different that's that's a different episode that

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we've actually already done but what i

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don't like about the idea and the

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phrase revolvers never jam is that it's

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not true revolvers will frequently not complete

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the cycle of operations and the reasons

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why they won't complete the cycle of

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opera

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patients usually come down to people trying

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to treat them like they would treat

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a modern polymer frame striker fired nine

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millimeter pistol or putting crappy ammo in

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them and because they are sensitive to

341
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crappy ammo just like modern polymer frame

342
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strike for nine millimeters but in completely

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different ways so for

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example if you put you know baba's

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wicked piss in hot reloads in your

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three fifty seven magnum and you pull

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the trigger and you get primer flow

348
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and it blows the primer out of

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the primer pocket you're not gonna be

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able to pull the trigger but i

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mean you will you can pull the

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trigger you might not be able to

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advance the cylinder

354
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and then when you go if you

355
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somehow manage to get that cylinder out

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of the gun which usually involves pushing

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cylinder release turning it sideways and hitting

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with a frickin mallet on one side

359
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now when you go to extract those

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spent cases but baba is wicked peasant

361
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hot reload has split open and you

362
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also need the mallet to bang the

363
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escape the ejector rod to

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get them out of there so the

365
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idea that revolvers don't jam is based

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around the idea that revolvers are incredibly

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resistant to neglect right if i take

368
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this the gun that's on my ankle

369
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because it doesn't have a red dot

370
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my character has got a red dot

371
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on but but did my ankle gun

372
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for example and i put it in

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a sock

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to her for a hundred years that's

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in a climate controlled area in a

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hundred years when i pull it out

377
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if the ammunition is still viable the

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gun will go off because nothing mechanical

379
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has happened to that gun in one

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hundred years in a climate controlled environment

381
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but revolvers are not tolerant of abuse

382
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and i would know i have abused

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the fuck out of a bunch of

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revolvers and know if that would be

385
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true what well you know it's hyperbole

386
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i get that but let's be fair

387
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here there are springs and attention there

388
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are things in there that are becoming

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stress points over time

390
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possibly yeah he's likely at one hundred

391
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twenty no doubt in my mind twenty

392
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years pick it up it would depend

393
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on any any of the springs are

394
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actually under their failure tension if they're

395
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not in a neutral enough state

396
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don't just worry about the spring itself

397
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but like what the spring is connected

398
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to just the sleigh bins like although

399
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i i i i question if that

400
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would be possible but i wouldn't know

401
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how to test

402
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probably canon i mean not well because

403
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if you think about this there are

404
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hundred year he remember that episode we

405
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did about seeing our licenses i can

406
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go on the internet like if i

407
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if i'd have seen our license i

408
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could go on the internet and probably

409
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buy a one hundred year old smith

410
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and wesson right now and i would

411
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guarantee that it hasn't been kept up

412
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yeah and i would have it mechanically

413
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examined to make sure it's safe to

414
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shoot in the sense that like it

415
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doesn't have any cracks or things in

416
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the frame or stuff like that but

417
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you know if i went and got

418
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in boston by the way a one

419
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hundred year old gun is from the

420
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nineteen twenties so it's like eliot ness

421
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level to us of technology which

422
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and we're we're about to enter the

423
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era where like the walther ppk was

424
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brand-new yeah also i really don't like

425
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the meme that i saw recently that

426
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was this you know what i think

427
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a thirty year old m four looks

428
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like

429
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what a thirty year old them for

430
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actually looks like it i'm like no

431
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it was like oh my god that's

432
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the sop mod one one five i'm

433
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not i'm not okay yeah that would

434
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hurt my feelings a little bit but

435
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the hundred year thing regardless aina we

436
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could we could probably put some effort

437
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into testing that but twenty years without

438
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a doubt

439
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you know and a more any more

440
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realistic use case is five years leave

441
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a loaded gun in a sock drawer

442
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for five years take it out and

443
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see what happens you know and the

444
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so the the point of that fud

445
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myth is that that they're trying to

446
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get at that i appreciate is that

447
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revolvers or tolerant of neglect

448
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but when you try to treat a

449
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revolver like a modern polymer frame semi

450
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automatic striker fired pistol bad things happen

451
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like even with my ten thousand ron

452
00:16:49.525 --> 00:16:52.165
torres i have to do regular maintenance

453
00:16:52.165 --> 00:16:53.755
on it i had to check the

454
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friggin screws to make sure that they

455
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were tight at one point i had

456
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to disassemble the cylinder put blue loctite

457
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on the ejector rod

458
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odd and screw it back in and

459
00:17:00.897 --> 00:17:02.137
i'm threaded and screwed back in and

460
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then hold it to make sure the

461
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fairies in the blue loctite went to

462
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the places where they're supposed to go

463
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and and you know some things like

464
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that and they're not maintenance free when

465
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people say that they're super reliable they

466
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tend to they tend to ascribed them

467
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that sir

468
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you say they don't jam there's a

469
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spin off myth that like revolvers or

470
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eat easy to use and we've tackled

471
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that a little bit in previous episodes

472
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and people will say well revolvers don't

473
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jam and revolvers are easy as no

474
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revolvers are mechanically simple and that allows

475
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those

476
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the two other things to sort of

477
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be true in the context but you

478
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have to put them into the context

479
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of those uses you can't just say

480
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oh well revolvers never jam and they're

481
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super easy to use so you can

482
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buy a revolver never shoot at once

483
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and you are going to be fine

484
00:17:55.705 --> 00:17:58.105
like that's not how these machines work

485
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nope so that's mine

486
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that is my my my big one

487
00:18:01.765 --> 00:18:03.445
right there jack let's move on to

488
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yours and what is your your bit

489
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of all the time and i think

490
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i think i cured because i'm i'm

491
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a giant monastery human being but i

492
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will often hear in gun stores and

493
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from foods

494
00:18:17.575 --> 00:18:20.515
you're why we carry ten millimeter three

495
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fifty seven magnum forty four magnum and

496
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they like i hear that one a

497
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lot

498
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like the kind of guns people carry

499
00:18:29.395 --> 00:18:32.215
ten millimeter submillimeter especially has become a

500
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gun or caliber that people just like

501
00:18:36.236 --> 00:18:38.185
give it a lot of credence but

502
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don't look at the loot data and

503
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see that the loads are like half

504
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of what they used to be your

505
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most commercially available

506
00:18:47.215 --> 00:18:50.125
mr smith and wesson but forty came

507
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around

508
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it was really hot forty but it's

509
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not super hot and it's not what

510
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it once was

511
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can get full pressure ten mil loads

512
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what makes that

513
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that the woods i probably have a

514
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two millimeter later with buffalo bore if

515
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i get brown bear country what about

516
00:19:10.345 --> 00:19:12.055
that forty four magnum tourists that you

517
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have that is for that is for

518
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black bear territory oh okay my very

519
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clear here hey

520
00:19:20.065 --> 00:19:22.975
il are unveiled or chanel is prouder

521
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than forty four magnum actually but it

522
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is five routes that's you know made

523
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a grizzly

524
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fifteen hundred pound animal and it does

525
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not want you there

526
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honestly i don't think i'd rather be

527
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there with a millimeter i'd want to

528
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be there

529
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one of our one of the the

530
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was somebody that we work with over

531
00:19:49.255 --> 00:19:52.465
at torres they they they we did

532
00:19:52.465 --> 00:19:53.935
a podcast with them they shot a

533
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bear twice with like a three thirty

534
00:19:55.945 --> 00:19:59.305
eight win mag it decided no i'm

535
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not going to die charged them over

536
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four hundred meters covered that space

537
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case in no time there as fast

538
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as a horse and it ate five

539
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rounds of four fifty for a soul

540
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from a taurus raging hunter before it

541
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decided it didn't want to live anymore

542
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and i firmly believe that it just

543
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decided it didn't want to live it

544
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was like i have finally fucking got

545
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me the story is harrowing you guys

546
00:20:22.645 --> 00:20:23.215
want to check out

547
00:20:23.810 --> 00:20:27.681
the by the horns podcast with jesse

548
00:20:27.681 --> 00:20:29.690
and kc where they talk to tina

549
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grinder about it is fantastic

550
00:20:32.540 --> 00:20:34.460
and that was a but yeah okay

551
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so bears

552
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the high capacity magazine in the meters

553
00:20:40.640 --> 00:20:41.450
nowadays

554
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loaded super hot they don't have the

555
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best bullet design

556
00:20:48.260 --> 00:20:49.820
like i don't think i've seen ten

557
00:20:49.820 --> 00:20:52.310
millimeter gold golden out there it might

558
00:20:52.310 --> 00:20:54.230
exist i'm sure

559
00:20:54.410 --> 00:20:54.800
ever seen

560
00:20:55.910 --> 00:20:59.360
the hornady ones are alright let's see

561
00:20:59.360 --> 00:21:01.790
what our friends over at lucky funner

562
00:21:01.790 --> 00:21:07.273
have let's see ten millimeter ten millimeters

563
00:21:07.276 --> 00:21:10.970
or if mj saw mj more f

564
00:21:10.970 --> 00:21:15.080
m j here's some good stuff no

565
00:21:15.230 --> 00:21:16.070
this is all pretty

566
00:21:16.070 --> 00:21:19.640
much sounds pretty much like nope that's

567
00:21:19.640 --> 00:21:20.720
fair i mean can you mc hold

568
00:21:20.720 --> 00:21:22.040
up or scroll back up we can

569
00:21:22.040 --> 00:21:24.470
sort by i think i think the

570
00:21:24.470 --> 00:21:26.810
myth of ten millimeter but i'm not

571
00:21:26.810 --> 00:21:29.390
the myth i think the meme of

572
00:21:29.390 --> 00:21:32.600
ten millimeter has started to influence the

573
00:21:32.600 --> 00:21:35.540
myth yeah okay so here's a couple

574
00:21:35.540 --> 00:21:36.200
of good ones

575
00:21:37.010 --> 00:21:39.350
there is a hundred and fifty five

576
00:21:39.350 --> 00:21:42.652
grain barnes vortex which is probably going

577
00:21:42.696 --> 00:21:44.990
mock jesus out of that thing and

578
00:21:44.990 --> 00:21:46.790
then it's a smoker the one that

579
00:21:46.790 --> 00:21:48.410
i would actually probably carry if i

580
00:21:48.410 --> 00:21:50.780
was going somewhere with terrifying large animals

581
00:21:50.780 --> 00:21:53.060
with pointy teeth and claws would be

582
00:21:53.060 --> 00:21:55.910
the federals got a two hundred grain

583
00:21:55.940 --> 00:21:56.390
a for

584
00:21:56.390 --> 00:21:59.810
frame which is going eleven hundred feet

585
00:21:59.810 --> 00:22:00.800
per second

586
00:22:01.430 --> 00:22:04.130
it is nine mil velocity out of

587
00:22:04.130 --> 00:22:06.230
a two hundred degree a frame hollow

588
00:22:06.230 --> 00:22:09.427
point could do so okay cool what

589
00:22:09.440 --> 00:22:10.970
is that going to mean on the

590
00:22:11.030 --> 00:22:13.010
comedy side oh by the way it's

591
00:22:13.010 --> 00:22:16.640
twenty five around it's going super fast

592
00:22:17.090 --> 00:22:19.700
hopefully the bullet is designed to open

593
00:22:19.700 --> 00:22:21.590
under that kind of speed the frame

594
00:22:21.590 --> 00:22:23.660
ms yeah that's a purpose-designed bullet for

595
00:22:23.660 --> 00:22:25.610
that so the book's going to open

596
00:22:25.640 --> 00:22:27.140
it's going to do a ton of

597
00:22:27.140 --> 00:22:27.770
damage

598
00:22:29.780 --> 00:22:30.860
what threat

599
00:22:32.090 --> 00:22:35.480
wires that are bears this is a

600
00:22:35.480 --> 00:22:35.870
hunting

601
00:22:36.980 --> 00:22:38.450
like it's it's bear

602
00:22:39.650 --> 00:22:42.770
elk moose those

603
00:22:44.810 --> 00:22:46.310
fucking elk

604
00:22:46.718 --> 00:22:47.690
you will loose

605
00:22:48.230 --> 00:22:51.590
zero fucks people you know the whole

606
00:22:51.590 --> 00:22:56.240
lake herbivores are harmless meme is showed

607
00:22:56.319 --> 00:22:57.770
and it is and you one to

608
00:22:57.770 --> 00:22:59.120
be very you you do not see

609
00:22:59.120 --> 00:23:00.350
that anymore

610
00:23:00.470 --> 00:23:03.260
actually heart of the mammal to jump

611
00:23:03.260 --> 00:23:04.460
off or continent i think a mammal

612
00:23:04.460 --> 00:23:05.961
with the highest body count is still

613
00:23:05.961 --> 00:23:06.800
the eponymous

614
00:23:08.420 --> 00:23:11.240
cape buffalo also have a pretty good

615
00:23:11.240 --> 00:23:14.600
one i don't for a second think

616
00:23:14.600 --> 00:23:17.030
that you could drop a what

617
00:23:18.410 --> 00:23:20.120
a hippo with a ten millimeter i

618
00:23:20.120 --> 00:23:21.320
don't think he'll do a cape buffalo

619
00:23:21.320 --> 00:23:22.880
either my boss shot a cape buffalo

620
00:23:22.880 --> 00:23:25.580
with a four sixty magnum and he

621
00:23:25.580 --> 00:23:27.500
shot it five times and it was

622
00:23:29.090 --> 00:23:31.220
i wouldn't want to go back to

623
00:23:31.250 --> 00:23:32.480
us i wouldn't want to go after

624
00:23:32.480 --> 00:23:35.000
moose with one even for absolutely not

625
00:23:36.110 --> 00:23:38.750
know when the weight of the animal

626
00:23:38.758 --> 00:23:40.460
starts with it or when the weight

627
00:23:40.460 --> 00:23:42.680
of the animal animal reaches four digits

628
00:23:45.110 --> 00:23:47.060
alma in that things wait i am

629
00:23:47.060 --> 00:23:49.070
not going after it with anything short

630
00:23:49.100 --> 00:23:51.860
of like the turbo magnums you know

631
00:23:51.860 --> 00:23:53.330
like your four sixties in your five

632
00:23:53.330 --> 00:23:55.220
hundred which are just essentially straight wall

633
00:23:55.220 --> 00:23:57.620
rifle cartridges and a handgun sure we'll

634
00:23:57.620 --> 00:24:00.833
do one of those but not no

635
00:24:00.833 --> 00:24:03.260
no no no i i i agree

636
00:24:03.260 --> 00:24:04.070
with the ten millimeters

637
00:24:04.310 --> 00:24:05.810
let people know i am a pretty

638
00:24:05.810 --> 00:24:09.440
big fan of ten-mile but you know

639
00:24:09.440 --> 00:24:12.020
even when i had but you know

640
00:24:12.020 --> 00:24:14.060
and i'm also very upfront about this

641
00:24:14.570 --> 00:24:16.460
even when i carried a ten mil

642
00:24:16.460 --> 00:24:19.160
revolver as my htc i carried it

643
00:24:19.160 --> 00:24:21.020
with forty smith and wesson like i

644
00:24:21.020 --> 00:24:23.210
carried one hundred and eighty grain hs

645
00:24:23.210 --> 00:24:24.230
tees in may

646
00:24:24.342 --> 00:24:26.330
quite with it which is probably the

647
00:24:26.450 --> 00:24:29.060
most hipster ass carry setup i've ever

648
00:24:29.060 --> 00:24:31.520
had but

649
00:24:32.630 --> 00:24:34.670
yeah i'd rather have a forty caliber

650
00:24:34.730 --> 00:24:38.270
hsv than a ten millimeter a free

651
00:24:38.330 --> 00:24:41.840
super smoker round yeah does even make

652
00:24:41.894 --> 00:24:44.270
for hst let's see hang on i'm

653
00:24:44.270 --> 00:24:46.130
just looking at the self defense options

654
00:24:46.130 --> 00:24:48.140
here on our good friend

655
00:24:49.790 --> 00:24:50.660
truckee punter

656
00:24:52.910 --> 00:24:56.900
there's a stp that's an okay bullet

657
00:24:57.230 --> 00:24:58.850
they're probably pushing it fast enough oh

658
00:24:58.850 --> 00:25:00.920
there's a critical duty hornet he's got

659
00:25:00.920 --> 00:25:04.130
a critical duty and spears got a

660
00:25:04.220 --> 00:25:05.630
two hundred grade a two hundred grain

661
00:25:05.660 --> 00:25:07.250
gold dot christ alive

662
00:25:08.390 --> 00:25:13.520
i do so yeah there does exist

663
00:25:13.790 --> 00:25:14.780
so there's two

664
00:25:16.400 --> 00:25:19.100
yeah there's two of them there's critical

665
00:25:19.100 --> 00:25:21.920
duty and gold dots which if you're

666
00:25:21.950 --> 00:25:23.390
wanting to get a gun that shoots

667
00:25:23.390 --> 00:25:25.310
critical duty and she'd scolded she's probably

668
00:25:25.310 --> 00:25:26.900
just get and you want it and

669
00:25:26.900 --> 00:25:29.540
hey look alright every now and then

670
00:25:29.570 --> 00:25:31.160
the fact that there's a four in

671
00:25:31.160 --> 00:25:33.110
the caliber scratch a happy part of

672
00:25:33.110 --> 00:25:34.370
my brain i get that i have

673
00:25:34.370 --> 00:25:35.540
a bunch of forty fives

674
00:25:35.990 --> 00:25:37.910
if you want a gun that starts

675
00:25:37.910 --> 00:25:39.050
with a four and you want to

676
00:25:39.050 --> 00:25:40.910
shoot one hundred and eighty grain gold

677
00:25:40.910 --> 00:25:41.990
dot you should probably just get a

678
00:25:41.990 --> 00:25:44.990
forty but i love ten mil make

679
00:25:44.990 --> 00:25:46.280
no mistake and used to live ten

680
00:25:46.280 --> 00:25:50.420
mil and i think the the interesting

681
00:25:50.420 --> 00:25:53.300
thing about all of this is we've

682
00:25:53.300 --> 00:25:54.410
spent so long

683
00:25:56.840 --> 00:25:59.390
every single one of these bits of

684
00:25:59.390 --> 00:26:02.150
fudd lore whether it's this you know

685
00:26:02.150 --> 00:26:04.010
the ones we've talked about or things

686
00:26:04.010 --> 00:26:07.010
like slow down and get your heads

687
00:26:07.040 --> 00:26:09.020
or slow is smooth and smooth is

688
00:26:09.020 --> 00:26:09.530
fast

689
00:26:10.760 --> 00:26:13.700
started off base in a good intentioned

690
00:26:13.700 --> 00:26:15.800
idea for the most part right like

691
00:26:15.920 --> 00:26:18.350
the shotgun thing was like hey when

692
00:26:18.350 --> 00:26:21.440
you pump your shotgun if someone hears

693
00:26:21.440 --> 00:26:23.720
it if they you know realize what's

694
00:26:23.720 --> 00:26:26.450
happening it could make them re calculate

695
00:26:26.450 --> 00:26:28.910
their decision but don't bet your life

696
00:26:28.910 --> 00:26:30.710
on that be prepared

697
00:26:30.770 --> 00:26:32.000
learn how to shoot learn how to

698
00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:33.470
run your gun etc

699
00:26:34.580 --> 00:26:35.630
and i think that you know there's

700
00:26:35.660 --> 00:26:37.670
there's a good there's a good thought

701
00:26:37.670 --> 00:26:39.170
process behind or will not a good

702
00:26:39.170 --> 00:26:41.330
thought process there's there's good intentions behind

703
00:26:41.330 --> 00:26:44.000
all of this and you end up

704
00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:46.280
in a situation though where just like

705
00:26:46.280 --> 00:26:48.080
the game of telephone which we've all

706
00:26:48.080 --> 00:26:49.190
played well

707
00:26:50.690 --> 00:26:51.950
is that game even going to exist

708
00:26:51.950 --> 00:26:53.570
anymore because people call each other on

709
00:26:53.570 --> 00:26:55.460
the phone like how to like gen

710
00:26:55.490 --> 00:26:57.200
z kids play telephone do they send

711
00:26:57.200 --> 00:27:00.050
each other garbled snapchats or something how

712
00:27:00.050 --> 00:27:01.700
does that work i dunno there's also

713
00:27:01.760 --> 00:27:04.520
there's also a weird trend where some

714
00:27:04.520 --> 00:27:06.500
of them are going back to legitimate

715
00:27:06.500 --> 00:27:08.270
like old school flip phones and they're

716
00:27:08.270 --> 00:27:10.550
ditching the they're ditching the smog

717
00:27:10.640 --> 00:27:12.620
from some of the stuff not a

718
00:27:12.620 --> 00:27:13.580
lot of them but some of them

719
00:27:13.610 --> 00:27:17.540
are ditching the smartphone trend so it

720
00:27:17.540 --> 00:27:20.120
may become a hipster game i i

721
00:27:20.120 --> 00:27:21.020
don't i don't even

722
00:27:22.130 --> 00:27:24.650
there are times where i'm like you

723
00:27:24.650 --> 00:27:27.050
know what i wouldn't mind getting rid

724
00:27:27.050 --> 00:27:32.990
of my quote unquote smartphone but to

725
00:27:33.200 --> 00:27:34.160
kind of put a bow on this

726
00:27:34.160 --> 00:27:37.580
episode i think the thing that i

727
00:27:37.580 --> 00:27:39.110
want to i want to leave people

728
00:27:39.110 --> 00:27:42.230
with is the idea of

729
00:27:42.230 --> 00:27:43.790
fudd lore you know hahaha we like

730
00:27:43.790 --> 00:27:45.020
to laugh about all of that and

731
00:27:45.020 --> 00:27:47.090
that sort of stuff but a lot

732
00:27:47.090 --> 00:27:50.270
of this stuff is based on a

733
00:27:50.270 --> 00:27:52.250
concept that either made sense at the

734
00:27:52.250 --> 00:27:54.410
time were still make sense and you

735
00:27:54.410 --> 00:27:56.420
have to be able to move past

736
00:27:56.510 --> 00:27:59.570
the meme layer of the conversation to

737
00:27:59.570 --> 00:28:02.390
really internalize it and wow meme

738
00:28:02.390 --> 00:28:03.980
these are great and memes are funny

739
00:28:04.550 --> 00:28:06.170
if you just look at thing at

740
00:28:06.170 --> 00:28:07.760
everything as a meme you can miss

741
00:28:07.760 --> 00:28:09.230
out on a lot of good knowledge

742
00:28:09.440 --> 00:28:11.930
and you know speaking of service level

743
00:28:11.990 --> 00:28:14.330
yeah speaking of phrases that are often

744
00:28:14.330 --> 00:28:18.440
misinterpreted or misused next week's episode we're

745
00:28:18.440 --> 00:28:19.820
going to be talking about the phrase

746
00:28:19.820 --> 00:28:22.490
mission drives the gear train what that

747
00:28:22.580 --> 00:28:25.370
actually means and how you can apply

748
00:28:25.370 --> 00:28:27.560
it to your everyday life i'd like

749
00:28:27.560 --> 00:28:29.450
to thank everyone for watching liking sharing

750
00:28:29.450 --> 00:28:30.950
and subscribing make sure you do those

751
00:28:30.950 --> 00:28:33.020
things please go ahead and kidnap someone

752
00:28:33.020 --> 00:28:34.700
and force them to listen to all

753
00:28:34.820 --> 00:28:37.520
hundred plus episodes that we've done just

754
00:28:37.670 --> 00:28:39.110
put them in your responsibility of course

755
00:28:39.950 --> 00:28:42.290
last you know make them listen it'll

756
00:28:42.290 --> 00:28:42.710
be great

757
00:28:42.740 --> 00:28:43.910
everyone have a good time and will

758
00:28:43.910 --> 00:28:46.100
have a new subscriber thank you again

759
00:28:46.100 --> 00:28:47.450
we'll be back next week with another

760
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all new episode of gun day brunch