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the hello there my name is matt

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best and i'm doing a sit down

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q and a for ballistic magazine

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second round the questions military service and

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post service life let's start at the

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beginning why did you choose to serve

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your country and you know i've always

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been very appreciative of what this country

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has to offer and i felt that

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it was a natural progression for me

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as a young kid

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you know i always wanted to join

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the military and i was unsure what

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branch i and so from there when

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i watched black hawk down it really

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kind of invigorated me to want to

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serve my country because i didn't want

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to go to college at the time

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when i was in high school i

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kind of was not a punk kid

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but definitely needed to get slapped up

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and mature a little bit so

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i think there's something so profound and

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special about service and service to your

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country and your fellow americans that i'm

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very thankful for that time and you

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know going forward i think there's so

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many other opportunities and ways to serve

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your country outside of the military and

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the military space so that's something i'll

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never stopped doing is trying to serve

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my country

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in one way or another

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k you have a lot of marines

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in your family your father was marine

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your two brothers were marines who served

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in the iraq war and a family

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full of marines what opted you to

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serve in the us army and what

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was my family's reaction to that

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interestingly enough my my father was very

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anti army he wanted me to join

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the air force he was just like

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you know wars trash you don't want

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to do that join the air force

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and obviously that's not what i wanted

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to do my brothers i wouldn't say

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necessarily were anti army but that definitely

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was a discussion point as far as

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service rivalry and to this day we

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always talk crap to each other like

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dumb marines and stupid army guy but

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really the genesis was i wanted to

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be more of the tip of the

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spear guy when i served and i

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wanted if i was going to serve

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at a time of war and volunteer

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for that i wanted the best equipment

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and a really good culture built around

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teamwork and

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the ranger regiment really stood out to

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me and that's why i pursued that

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career path

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now look at that i teed it

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up perfectly you serve in the second

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ranger battalion seventy fifth ranger regiment that's

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described as an elite unit but break

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it down for civilians not in the

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military world just how easily is it

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and how did you end up going

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down that road so i think a

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lot of civilians tend to look at

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a lot of differ

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services and special operations and confused why

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there are so many who's better and

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what's not and while we all talk

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crap to each other you know it's

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one team one fight and i think

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each in it's kind of set up

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for a specific skill set you know

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navy seals are really great at maritime

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and water operations you have special forces

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green berets who are more you know

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f id missions and training the trainer

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and you know having a cue happen

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and for me ranger battalion really stood

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up as more of a direct action

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force and at the time you know

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the unit was built to specialize in

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airfield seizures and for me it was

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a better path at the age i

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to go and get experience as kind

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of an assault her and for me

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that job stood out the most because

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i wasn't as old when i joined

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the military i was seventeen and something

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about being part of a direct action

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force was really what i wanted to

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do and i was lucky enough and

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thankful enough to to make it through

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and serve with some epic epic dudes

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but i'm like super washed up now

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that was so many years ago i'm

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a coffee ghana

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you deployed five times four times in

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operation iraqi freedom and once in operation

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enduring freedom what's the one moment if

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there is one that stands out to

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you about your time in service and

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you know i think it's really hard

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to breakdown one exact moment i think

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for me serving with the quality of

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individual that's in ranger regiment was absolutely

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the defining moment for me throughout the

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time i spent there because i served

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around so many capable

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intelligent motivated individuals that i realized that

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there was just this level of of

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professionalism and

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epic individuals that i had to kind

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of rise to the occasion to do

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and i don't think that if i

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would have not done any of that

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i would have been teed up to

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serve you know post military my community

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and be as hardworking as i am

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in business you know i think something

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that we do a lot of black

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rifles we really

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gauge each other and we compete against

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each other to see how hard we

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can work and how fast we can

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get shit done and i don't that

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that's really a special operations mentality that

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comes from the units that we serve

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in post service life how did contracting

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for compare to your time in the

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army i think when you're talking about

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contracting for you know oj or whatever

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thing you do the mission set is

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so different unless you're in a very

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compartmentalized specific unit that when you're contracting

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you know if you're really getting

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shot at and mild profession you're doing

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your job incorrectly whereas you know ranger

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battalion it was strapping on night vision

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jumping out of helicopters and chasing down

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enemies whereas my job in the the

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other capacity was significantly different it was

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how do we keep everybody safe and

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then not get shot

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but i will say it was it

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was a very awesome experience is a

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great learning lesson i got to work

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with so many other people from different

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special operations communities and i learned a

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lot from being there and i'll always

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look back at that time of my

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life and be very thankful that i

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was given the opportunity to do that

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when did you know you wanted to

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write a book about your time in

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service was there a particular moment that

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sparked the decision i actually started writing

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some chapters like ten years ago and

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i didn't think there was enough substance

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to the book at the time but

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i just wanted to kind of almost

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like a journal remember really bad

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bad and good experiences in how i

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feel at the moment so you know

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i think as time goes on you

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tend to create a new sense of

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what happened historically so i wanted to

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really capture those moments as authentically as

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i could from back in the day

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and really i like telling stories whether

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it's through music skits and you know

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being a smart ass and real

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the the book was my way of

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putting a more long form piece of

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content together to give people backstory on

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what i did where i came from

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and then obviously make a lot of

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dumb jokes in it as well

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alright everyone's experiences are different but what

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would you say was the toughest part

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about post service life and for me

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and me personally it was absolutely the

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transition aspect of it i think you

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hear that from a lot of guys

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and gals and get out of the

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military because you're in such a i

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built support syst

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item and your it's a team mentality

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and you rely on each other to

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get through everything and you're just kind

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of built into this team you work

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together you go out and have drinks

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together you support each other and then

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when i got out i kind of

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felt ostracized from that community and very

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alone and that loneliness for me kind

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of saw

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snowballed into me not wanting to do

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anything with my life and being lazy

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which is essentially like the antithesis of

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who i am as a human and

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for me it took me like a

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year and a half two years to

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really really fight through that and not

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be scared of transition and realize that

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the future that i'm going to have

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is solely reliant on the actions i

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take today

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and that definitely was a big learning

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experience for me because when i was

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in the military you know you're kind

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of provided every day what you're going

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to do it's like hey show up

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to you know the pt at this

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time or going to the range today

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and it's very structured and when you

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get out of the military there's something

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so amazing and epic about not

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having structure but for a lot of

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guys like me i kind of fell

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into this like laziness and this bubble

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of just self doubt and insecurity and

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it took a while for me to

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regain the confidence to kind of go

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kick ass in life but i think

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a lot of people that served their

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post service journey is drastically different based

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half of what they went through and

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for me that's why i work with

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organizations like the boot campaign because their

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whole structure is built on individual treatment

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and you know you can't put a

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band-aid on a bullet hole you have

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to actually go in and surgically fix

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people not that that's a metaphor suggests

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that kind of open but you know

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do they have tv i'd do they

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have seats you eat the short term

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murray lost to the pts and there's

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all these things that can be blanket

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diagnosed and you don't want to treat

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the symptoms you want to treat the

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clause and for me that was a

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learning lesson for a lot of guys

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and gals that i've talked to your

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post service and why support that organization

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to do okay

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what is the biggest public misconception about

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being a veteran oh man that's a

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good question

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i think veterans are misconceived all the

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time right so for me a veteran

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it was service to your country and

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at the end of the day it

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was a job and i think that

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we get bucket it into a specific

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type and culture and the military is

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so frickin diverse with the people that

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are in it and the way of

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thinking in it and so

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i think often like especially in hollywood

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we're kind of portrayed in two different

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ways either you're a superhero or you're

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like this ptsd pill popping guy and

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i think most veterans are literally just

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normal people that signed up to do

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extraordinary things and serve their country and

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there's no true way to

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blanket a whole entire community as as

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one way i mean the veteran experience

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is so different across the board and

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everybody that serves is so different so

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i think that's the biggest misconception is

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people think a veteran is this you

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have to look at the individual not

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necessarily you know service makes you this

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your support for the veteran community is

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well documented and pretty incredible thanks man

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you prioritize hiring veterans for the various

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companies you help run like black rifle

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coffee is there something you'd like to

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see the government to do to assist

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assist those leaving service

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i think i i'm not too well

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versed at this point but i know

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that the deity and military are making

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strides to get that post service transition

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better for me when i got out

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i just got back from a deployment

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you know and then signed out of

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the military and i didn't prep for

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college i didn't really do anything so

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i think that there has to be

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more resources available from the military to

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kind of prep guys and gals for

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what their future holds rather than just

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getting out and i would like to

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see more companies you know across america

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support and hire veterans i think for

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a while specifically post g what there

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was a lot

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of misconception about veterans and then if

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they've been to war that makes them

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some you know at risk individual and

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i think that is the biggest fucking

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stupid statement i've ever heard in my

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life right so i think that more

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companies need to be willing and accept

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that veterans are amazing and you should

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hire them and employ

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then because they serve this country and

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they're willing to serve your business as

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well and the reason that we do

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it is obviously to support the community

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but not only that is the type

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of quality of individuals that we get

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out of the veteran community is awesome

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you know they have a massively diverse

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skill set they're they're capable individuals and

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i i wish more companies thought like

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us

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what's one piece of advice you have

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for anyone looking to serve america in

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the military today

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do it i think serving your country

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is awesome and for a lot of

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people like they might not know there

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are so many different mls is in

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jobs within the military like you don't

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have to join and be a special

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operations guy and carry a gun for

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living i mean there's intelligent jobs there's

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cooking jobs there's so much opportunity disturbed

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can

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entry from a support role and that's

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phenomenal and epic and awesome and not

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to mention you know if you get

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a college education while you're there there's

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some really great opportunities in the military

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and i think a lot of people

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look at the military is just carrying

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a gun for living that's not what

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the majority does in the military there

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there's

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serving a larger cause you know that

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there's a lot of opportunity to to

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give back and in the military so

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alright well thanks for having me on

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and we'll see you next time bye

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bye

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army reserve

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day we brought the mike

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yeah broke the mike

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think i was just breathing too heavy

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on the mic

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everyone

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yeah

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oh look at you

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smart

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we don't have someone to hold them

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like today or we don't even have

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a tripod you the viewer sitting on

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a nice gun box