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the biggest gift and share with gundy

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brunch today is going to be a

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solo episode we are still brought to

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you by bleecker street publications and the

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tourists usa brands tourist heritage and rossi

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keep on the keep on the lookout

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from those guys that bounce from your

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stuff in the pipe that is going

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to be a lot of fun today

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however we are

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not going to be discussing firearms i

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want to take a detour into optics

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namely because i've had this come up

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in a couple of classes recently and

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lp videos and when when to get

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in when not to get and we

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went on a tangent of a few

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weeks ago when the caleb discussing lp

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avios vs red dots and he ended

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up on a red dot again because

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he is stuck in his ways and

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curmudgeonly and that that's fine i am

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but he is that elder millennial and

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he is embracing his slow transformation into

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a american handgun or boomer and i

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am i am happy for him about

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that but the lp beos low power

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variable optics do you need one do

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on what what are their purposes because

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there are two distinct lanes that we've

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seen come from lp beos and depending

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on your source and the biases of

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those sources and you might be under

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false assumptions about one one can and

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what cannot do or what type of

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problems in l

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p b o might solve for you

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in the shooting world so first things

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first and we'll get it out of

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the way

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if you are running a quality render

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of some sort like a comp em

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for compact for s benny aimpoint any

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quality trijicon eotech

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stg allison et etc if you're running

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any dot that is working for you

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you do not need to be in

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a significant hurry to upgrade to an

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lp vo unless there are exterior factors

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such as degrading eyesight or emission profile

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that requires longer distance observations wells longer

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distance shooting you can shoot this

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things far away with a red dot

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it is very possible it's even easier

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than shooting things long away far away

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with iron sights because your aiming point

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is much more precise than the iron

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iron sights and back in my day

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marine corps time and i hit five

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hundred yards multiple

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dimes all day long and qualified with

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iron sights and an m sixteen a

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tube a red dot would have been

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easier because of a finer point of

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aim and then just learning proper hold

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over it with a it would have

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been much more precise than the m

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sixteen a two am sixteen a for

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a pose they pose can do it

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red dot can do it a little

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bit better but you're still

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in that an magnified unassisted sight picture

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so going from that into the world

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of lp videos you'd have two types

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so if you are in that mission

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profile where you want to or need

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to upgrade to a variable magnified the

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first thing you should probably look at

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are the second focal plane options

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because you are stepping from the mission

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of a red dot optic into a

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red dot plus magnification which is what

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your second focal plane scopes are giving

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you especially the daylight bright ones the

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the actual either fiber optic illuminated or

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otherwise render bright options in second focal

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plane there are a couple of ops

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oceans and front focal plane that give

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you a bright center radical but i

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think i'm stoned the impression that a

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lot of those scopes are trying to

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do too much because they have two

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different lanes that therein so good second

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focal plane options and this is the

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it is specifically second focal plane has

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radical and it is a a

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it's their submission and it won the

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contract for you are so calm for

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the svp s the squad variable power

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scope so one to six second focal

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plane bright dot simple radical that is

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btc compensated at maximum power at six

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power for an eight five five a

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inch barrel so

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and it'll bdc compensate for the military

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issue in a five five a one

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ama in it's going to be it's

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going to track reasonably accurately for other

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five five six loads in other barrels

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as well you're just going to have

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to develop data on it the oji

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classic in that line is of course

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the razor to hd

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the and the upgraded razer to entity

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ii which is lighter and these excellent

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scopes still produced still a working around

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and again a very simple radical bright

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center aiming point so you're getting a

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lot of the red dot

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of an adjustable magnifier so you and

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eye relief issues that come with some

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of the magnifiers that are while high

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quality they do have limited eye boxes

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more forgiving so those are two

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classic one six options those are where

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second focal plane one to six options

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there are a ton out there in

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the market nowadays guys and moving up

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from there another one i like is

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the primary arms plx see in the

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second focal plane with the bright option

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what they're claiming is a generation to

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render bright front focal plane variant i

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will get from focal planes here in

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a bit i do like those scopes

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they just again inhabit that different lane

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self second focal plane options this is

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my current favorite the plx see

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i also like the eotech vudu one

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to eight i think that one has

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done very very well and then obviously

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the razor two and the sig as

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vps or the sake second focal plane

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tango sixty variance i have had very

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scopes i think they are plenty durable

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the second focal plane lp rio is

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as for that magnified red dot performance

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envelope you need the red dot capabilities

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the speed and the simple aiming system

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ranging and bullet drop compensation station capability

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because you can put a marked radical

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four x or six x most people

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because it's easy to get to that

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magnification now your bdc works correctly it's

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simplifying the operator process you just need

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to know what the various points the

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variance the various points

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i mean inside your optic and then

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properly tune it to while you're shooting

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specifications so you build a little bit

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of data with scopes and they become

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super useful even if your radical isn't

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all that complex you can probably make

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the rifle work to six hundred seven

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moving on to first focal plane options

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the first one i'm gonna point out

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here is the marine corps version of

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bb can't be one to eight x

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v kg it has got a mil

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radian mil rad radical inside it it

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chose to do that

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that and build data on the on

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the various rifles a little bit more

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live as opposed to just trying to

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set it and forget it cause i

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think a lot gets lost in that

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air that marines should know and that

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troops in general should now the marines

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specifically this is riding on an m

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in amd seven if this is riding

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agent k that's got the eleven inch

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barrel on it or if it is

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riding on a a twenty inch barreled

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gun or a three weight gun the

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scope itself can without any changes without

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anything needed you can build data out

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on it you can either build it

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enable as to calculator initially and then

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you can true it up on the

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range where you can just build it

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on the range and see how

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happens but the radicals very very useful

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and the the hash marks are pretty

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easy to memorize just like the bdc

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it it's not that hard a conversion

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from the a cog which was you

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the marine corps a cog the one

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for the m sixteen twenty inch barrel

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i'll tune it was very well thought

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out if like we never changed emos

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and anything like that but as soon

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as we started changing those things it's

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like okay now my dad is wrong

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my data inside my site is wrong

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not not very wrong usually within margin

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of error that makes it just fine

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overlapping tendencies button enough wrong that it's

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like universal system like the mil radian

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is a really good solution too and

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you just learn the data for the

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ammo you're shooting so if you're shooting

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merc to six to the new build

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data on mart mart to six two

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a one you build data on an

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a five a one so this is

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the esea squad common optic i like

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it i'm glad i got my hands

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on it it is heavy as all

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get out it is a very very

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heavy scope but it is a good

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representation of that front focal plane type

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system nightforce has a really good front

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focal plane option march optics has a

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good front focal plane option the primary

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arms plx see in the one eight

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bit heavier little tiny bit different than

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their second focal plane version and we're

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talking very limited amounts of folks but

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also a really good one

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different focal plane scope in that scope

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elements to it obviously the sight picture

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on front focal plane scopes remains consistent

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with the target image so a mill

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is always a mil a minute of

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angle is always a minute of angle

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it doesn't just operating at maximum magnification

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which is what second focal plane

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scopes do their scale is again usually

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only accurate at a specific magnification or

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and some people some people might disagree

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with me but the current king of

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the front focal plane realm i think

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he is the razor version for the

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razor three opic up from vortex is

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still my favorite in the front focal

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plane scopes because with front focal plane

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with that detail oriented radical

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and giving more giving me more magnification

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gives me more options and allows me

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to take a very precise shot so

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i like front focal planes on guns

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were in there's a lot of to

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to take it back for a second

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there's a lot of interoperability between a

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second focal plane and a front focal

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plain lp be out there covering a

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lot of the same space and a

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lot of the same capabilities you just

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kind of have to pick one direction

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where you want it to be a

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little bit better the second focal plane

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being in that red dot emulation of

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speed and brightness and accuracy like immediately

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on demand

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and the front focal plane in the

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detailed measurements the much more precise maybe

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smaller object or more precise optic shooting

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if one of those has a preference

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of one of those has a priority

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for you that should be the direction

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you start looking for your optical switch

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so with a razor three

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you get a bright center dot radical

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it's awesome i like that about it

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they are still very expensive scopes i

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get that i've got two of them

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but it gives me some of that

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precision optic capability just tenax this this

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guy is more it's just as much

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magnification as i would have had on

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an early ge what sniper rifle running

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the leopold marked for three and after

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ten

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so i've got a lot of options

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and i can take a lot more

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advantage of what the rifle is capable

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of doing thanks to the optic but

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if the sight picture in the data

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inside the optic is overwhelming or i'm

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not utilizing all of it it can

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be hindrance more than help which is

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if you are looking into alchemy as

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for the firm

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first time i recommend look at second

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focal plane first look at those second

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focal plane scopes as your initial foray

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into lp videos i randomly lp videos

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on most of my rifles now again

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eyes astigmatism it helps with that solid

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state radicals help

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astigmatism there are a lot of advantages

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when it comes to that but if

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you are just starting into lp videos

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if you don't have precision rifle background

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at all if you don't have any

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precision rifle and

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knowledge in applique application and knowledge then

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i think a front focal plane scope

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is going to be underutilized though those

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feature sets are going to be underutilized

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if you the you are just getting

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into a variable magnified optics for your

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carbons cause second focal plane works fine

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fine it gives you a slightly lighter

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scope a slightly brighter and sight picture

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due to the construction and the number

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of lenses required so there are a

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lot of advantages still with second focal

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plane optics because you don't need the

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complexity you want the magnification you want

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the clarity of sight picture and you

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want the additional information that bet

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magnification can give you about your target

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but you don't need the additional complexity

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in the radical it's not doing anything

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for you at that point in time

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so there's my little tangent on lp

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beos guys i hope it's informative i

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hope it's instructive and i hope it

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answers questions you might be have if

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you

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or looking to switch to magnified optics

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from red dot optics but again you

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don't need to be in a hurry

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to do it red dots work fine

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red dots work excellently if your profile

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if your use profile says no or

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biologically you're aging like i am biologically

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it says it's time

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for magnification where your user profile says

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it's time for magnification start the search

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in second focal plane and then if

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your use case says nope tiny precise

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need to be able to measure very

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very precisely measure distance precisely and make

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a very precise very deliberate shot

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then look at front focal plane with

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the with the enhance radicals that come

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with the front focal plane optics there

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are a lot of options out there

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you can get lost in the weeds

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guys and weeds don't get lost in

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the weed you're not supposed to do

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that with firearms either

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there's a question on forty four seventy

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three is about that

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anyway guys that's all i got for

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today if you have any other questions

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about optics feel free to send those

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in capable looking at inbox get those

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questions to me or we'll address them

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in a future episode until then i

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will see you later