WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.460 --> 00:00:05.070 hey guys i hadn't key fish enjoy 2 00:00:05.070 --> 00:00:09.750 ferguson and p e fish and ours 3 00:00:09.780 --> 00:00:12.630 were countering caleb's last episode with an 4 00:00:12.630 --> 00:00:15.360 episode without caleb this week and this 5 00:00:15.360 --> 00:00:16.710 has gone day brunch brought to you 6 00:00:16.710 --> 00:00:19.740 by taurus usa and the wonderful folks 7 00:00:20.162 --> 00:00:21.990 us at bleecker street publications 8 00:00:23.460 --> 00:00:24.690 pool i got through that ad read 9 00:00:26.610 --> 00:00:28.710 go check out tourists especially as we're 10 00:00:28.710 --> 00:00:31.530 rolling into the pre shopko timeframe new 11 00:00:31.530 --> 00:00:33.810 steps can be coming from everybody including 12 00:00:33.810 --> 00:00:35.280 them though keep an eye out for 13 00:00:35.280 --> 00:00:37.920 that and i don't know what mchale 14 00:00:37.920 --> 00:00:41.280 of his t's and coloured out photos 15 00:00:41.280 --> 00:00:42.750 of stuff he can't show yet which 16 00:00:42.750 --> 00:00:45.330 means there is new stuff coming and 17 00:00:45.330 --> 00:00:46.080 i appreciate the 18 00:00:46.080 --> 00:00:46.740 at about that 19 00:00:47.820 --> 00:00:51.810 but on today's episode because caleb is 20 00:00:51.810 --> 00:00:53.250 missing and therefore we can do what 21 00:00:53.250 --> 00:00:54.780 we want we're going to talk about 22 00:00:54.780 --> 00:00:57.210 buying your first rifle could he eat 23 00:00:57.690 --> 00:01:00.510 when vociferously i dunno perhaps the right 24 00:01:00.510 --> 00:01:04.080 word and he hijacked the last episode 25 00:01:04.080 --> 00:01:05.880 solo to talk about revolvers so we're 26 00:01:05.880 --> 00:01:07.920 gonna talk about rifles screw uk 27 00:01:08.250 --> 00:01:09.990 you can you can't just do this 28 00:01:09.990 --> 00:01:10.470 on your own 29 00:01:13.200 --> 00:01:15.690 so bashing you look for in purchasing 30 00:01:15.720 --> 00:01:19.080 your burst rifle new rifle buyers whether 31 00:01:19.110 --> 00:01:21.000 you're in that eighteen to twenty two 32 00:01:21.000 --> 00:01:23.160 year old you know demographic where joey 33 00:01:23.160 --> 00:01:26.040 is still close to or if you're 34 00:01:26.040 --> 00:01:28.590 a newer consumer of an older bent 35 00:01:28.590 --> 00:01:31.680 like i i recently this justice pack 36 00:01:31.680 --> 00:01:34.560 last couple of months and i had 37 00:01:34.560 --> 00:01:36.750 a first time firearm buyer and then 38 00:01:36.750 --> 00:01:38.760 a first-time rifle buyer who just turned 39 00:01:38.760 --> 00:01:42.270 seventy so it's not it's not out 40 00:01:42.270 --> 00:01:44.490 there that this can be in any 41 00:01:44.490 --> 00:01:46.410 age bracket this isn't just you turned 42 00:01:46.410 --> 00:01:48.300 eighteen you can finally buy a rifle 43 00:01:48.720 --> 00:01:50.940 and what should you look for although 44 00:01:50.970 --> 00:01:51.840 you are probably 45 00:01:51.840 --> 00:01:53.940 really looking at different things based on 46 00:01:53.940 --> 00:01:55.650 your age bracket cause your age bracket 47 00:01:55.650 --> 00:01:58.860 is also going to largely determine your 48 00:01:58.920 --> 00:02:00.660 income bracket as well if you are 49 00:02:00.690 --> 00:02:02.610 eighteen to twenty two you're not making 50 00:02:02.610 --> 00:02:04.980 as much money so those palmetto state 51 00:02:04.980 --> 00:02:07.410 armory nailers with the i'm looking at 52 00:02:07.410 --> 00:02:09.930 one right now with the ninety nine 53 00:02:09.930 --> 00:02:11.940 dollar complete lower and a two hundred 54 00:02:11.940 --> 00:02:12.000 and 55 00:02:12.030 --> 00:02:14.280 twenty dollar complete upper that just needs 56 00:02:14.280 --> 00:02:15.930 a bolt carrier and charging handle which 57 00:02:15.930 --> 00:02:17.670 i'm sure there will be another fail 58 00:02:17.670 --> 00:02:20.670 today that as that part included on 59 00:02:20.760 --> 00:02:23.850 or about ninety dollars and you can 60 00:02:23.850 --> 00:02:25.770 get on with your bad self with 61 00:02:25.770 --> 00:02:28.920 a rifle this particular option and and 62 00:02:29.700 --> 00:02:32.160 full credit to palmetto state this protect 63 00:02:32.160 --> 00:02:35.100 eller option i would be a three 64 00:02:35.100 --> 00:02:37.710 hundred blackout but you would end up 65 00:02:37.710 --> 00:02:39.870 with a three hundred blackout rifle for 66 00:02:39.870 --> 00:02:43.050 about four hundred dollars complete rifle and 67 00:02:43.050 --> 00:02:44.400 the only thing you would need to 68 00:02:44.400 --> 00:02:46.410 do to a guy's i i emphasize 69 00:02:46.410 --> 00:02:47.730 as the only thing you would need 70 00:02:47.730 --> 00:02:50.430 to do is inspect it properly so 71 00:02:50.430 --> 00:02:52.320 if you have if you know 72 00:02:52.320 --> 00:02:53.820 the gunsmith or you know someone who 73 00:02:53.820 --> 00:02:55.620 is familiar enough with the the build 74 00:02:55.620 --> 00:02:58.170 process of a rs to inspect this 75 00:02:58.200 --> 00:03:01.140 and probably change the buffer out would 76 00:03:01.140 --> 00:03:03.840 be the the one thing that i 77 00:03:03.840 --> 00:03:05.940 would say would need to be swapped 78 00:03:05.940 --> 00:03:08.250 from this part is just properly give 79 00:03:08.250 --> 00:03:10.110 it a proper waited buffer for whatever 80 00:03:10.110 --> 00:03:11.786 it is you're shooting whatever maryland you'd 81 00:03:11.786 --> 00:03:12.060 have 82 00:03:12.570 --> 00:03:14.790 because i guarantee you that that psh 83 00:03:14.820 --> 00:03:17.190 just has a marshall weight bumper which 84 00:03:17.400 --> 00:03:19.410 nobody does nobody should be using commercial 85 00:03:19.410 --> 00:03:20.700 weight moderators you should be using at 86 00:03:20.700 --> 00:03:21.510 least h ones 87 00:03:23.250 --> 00:03:25.020 i was going to say another l 88 00:03:25.230 --> 00:03:27.150 l r w c i picked up 89 00:03:27.360 --> 00:03:28.800 even though he's sick and had put 90 00:03:28.800 --> 00:03:31.230 an age to mix a little bit 91 00:03:31.230 --> 00:03:33.780 heavier but it it is surprisingly smooth 92 00:03:33.810 --> 00:03:36.240 and i might steal that yeah the 93 00:03:36.510 --> 00:03:38.610 most of most of l dubs guns 94 00:03:38.610 --> 00:03:39.390 run each tooth 95 00:03:41.790 --> 00:03:44.730 so and it does it does make 96 00:03:44.730 --> 00:03:46.380 a difference in the recall and bolt 97 00:03:48.480 --> 00:03:50.340 you'll notice a lot of that but 98 00:03:50.370 --> 00:03:53.460 getting back to acquiring that first rifle 99 00:03:53.940 --> 00:03:55.560 what are factors you should look for 100 00:03:55.560 --> 00:03:57.690 i'm already talking about economy right what 101 00:03:57.690 --> 00:03:59.220 what's in your budget your this is 102 00:03:59.220 --> 00:04:00.990 probably your first gun and if you 103 00:04:00.990 --> 00:04:02.460 are in that younger demographic you probably 104 00:04:02.460 --> 00:04:03.780 don't have a ton of cash so 105 00:04:03.780 --> 00:04:06.150 those photos you know look very very 106 00:04:06.150 --> 00:04:08.160 attractive well i will also 107 00:04:08.160 --> 00:04:10.770 so emphasized huh guys look for deals 108 00:04:10.770 --> 00:04:12.690 look for sales and look at that 109 00:04:12.690 --> 00:04:16.620 used wall especially right now especially in 110 00:04:16.620 --> 00:04:18.270 the wonderful year of our lord twenty 111 00:04:18.270 --> 00:04:21.870 twenty five or twenty twenty five common 112 00:04:21.870 --> 00:04:23.880 era if you say things like that 113 00:04:25.860 --> 00:04:27.360 look at that used wall look at 114 00:04:27.360 --> 00:04:29.040 that consignment wall look at look at 115 00:04:29.040 --> 00:04:31.170 stuff that people you know at had 116 00:04:31.410 --> 00:04:32.880 i fell down through and are now 117 00:04:32.880 --> 00:04:35.580 moving cause there are some ink read 118 00:04:35.580 --> 00:04:37.650 a book deals to be had for 119 00:04:37.650 --> 00:04:39.960 a rs a case and alike out 120 00:04:40.800 --> 00:04:42.450 back in the day my first rifle 121 00:04:42.780 --> 00:04:45.150 i ended up waiting until one yg 122 00:04:45.360 --> 00:04:47.700 twenty one before i got my portrait 123 00:04:47.730 --> 00:04:50.430 not out of not out of choice 124 00:04:50.790 --> 00:04:51.990 i definitely wanted to buy in a 125 00:04:51.990 --> 00:04:53.430 jar as soon as i turned eighteen 126 00:04:54.210 --> 00:04:55.620 but i was poor and made bad 127 00:04:55.620 --> 00:04:56.970 financial decisions so 128 00:04:58.740 --> 00:04:59.970 i didn't end up with an hr 129 00:04:59.970 --> 00:05:01.650 or anything of the like until i 130 00:05:01.650 --> 00:05:03.810 turned twenty one and bought a arsenal 131 00:05:03.810 --> 00:05:04.170 ak 132 00:05:06.210 --> 00:05:08.130 an ideal haunted the hell out of 133 00:05:08.130 --> 00:05:11.160 that because arsenal aka at the time 134 00:05:11.160 --> 00:05:12.990 were going for like eleven hundred twelve 135 00:05:13.020 --> 00:05:16.890 hundred usually on the shelf but i 136 00:05:16.920 --> 00:05:20.070 got a deal direct ok loadout model 137 00:05:20.520 --> 00:05:22.050 they were going from stl twenty to 138 00:05:22.050 --> 00:05:24.630 twenty one and i got it for 139 00:05:24.630 --> 00:05:25.020 like 140 00:05:25.530 --> 00:05:28.020 six hundred dollars just as i hunted 141 00:05:28.020 --> 00:05:29.880 and i clicked on stopping in bed 142 00:05:30.000 --> 00:05:32.310 under the round and then they were 143 00:05:32.310 --> 00:05:34.050 like wait you're you're in the military 144 00:05:34.050 --> 00:05:35.430 and what yeah i am in there 145 00:05:35.430 --> 00:05:37.860 like alright here's like an extra seventy 146 00:05:37.860 --> 00:05:39.690 five bucks off and free shipping and 147 00:05:39.690 --> 00:05:41.550 i'm like alright cool i looked 148 00:05:44.580 --> 00:05:46.500 for those watching my dog has joined 149 00:05:46.500 --> 00:05:49.170 the podcast for those listening my my 150 00:05:49.170 --> 00:05:50.610 dog has joined the podcast he just 151 00:05:50.700 --> 00:05:51.660 cannot see my dogs 152 00:05:53.760 --> 00:05:55.860 is it so joey 153 00:05:57.780 --> 00:05:59.550 your first rifle was different you didn't 154 00:05:59.550 --> 00:06:01.470 look for in a our style what 155 00:06:01.470 --> 00:06:03.270 were what what did you hunt down 156 00:06:03.270 --> 00:06:05.700 in your burst rifle because i'm i'm 157 00:06:05.700 --> 00:06:08.486 sitting here speaking to like oh you're 158 00:06:08.486 --> 00:06:09.720 your first guns going to be an 159 00:06:09.720 --> 00:06:11.730 hour and not as a servant as 160 00:06:11.730 --> 00:06:14.250 your you could you can be you 161 00:06:14.250 --> 00:06:16.020 know lining up for your first hunting 162 00:06:16.020 --> 00:06:17.040 season that you can purchase 163 00:06:17.100 --> 00:06:18.720 your own you know your first one 164 00:06:18.720 --> 00:06:22.200 rifle you could be going outs and 165 00:06:22.200 --> 00:06:25.260 looking at precision rifle series prs and 166 00:06:25.290 --> 00:06:26.490 you want to set up you know 167 00:06:26.490 --> 00:06:28.890 a dope bolt gun for your first 168 00:06:28.890 --> 00:06:31.200 rifle because that's that's the shooting sport 169 00:06:31.200 --> 00:06:34.380 that is getting you into this niche 170 00:06:34.380 --> 00:06:35.880 that is getting you into this space 171 00:06:35.880 --> 00:06:37.080 it doesn't just have to be 172 00:06:37.410 --> 00:06:39.090 you know a black rifle it has 173 00:06:39.930 --> 00:06:42.150 yeah now suffer for me i grew 174 00:06:42.150 --> 00:06:44.910 up hunting so for me it was 175 00:06:45.030 --> 00:06:47.370 definitely budget was a big factor because 176 00:06:47.490 --> 00:06:49.050 when i turned eighteen i had you 177 00:06:49.050 --> 00:06:52.470 know ten dollars and maybe on a 178 00:06:52.470 --> 00:06:54.990 happy burger in my car so 179 00:06:56.670 --> 00:06:58.590 what i ended up going with was 180 00:06:58.650 --> 00:07:02.610 a remington seven seventy for it to 181 00:07:02.610 --> 00:07:05.550 seventy because it's a it's a good 182 00:07:05.550 --> 00:07:08.400 round for hunting it's it's versatile and 183 00:07:08.670 --> 00:07:10.620 where in the where in michigan so 184 00:07:10.740 --> 00:07:11.910 you know you're not going to have 185 00:07:11.910 --> 00:07:14.580 those crazy far shots but you're going 186 00:07:14.580 --> 00:07:15.930 to have a simple gun that's going 187 00:07:15.930 --> 00:07:16.320 to work 188 00:07:16.320 --> 00:07:19.200 right and and it's both action so 189 00:07:19.260 --> 00:07:21.330 you know if you screw that up 190 00:07:21.330 --> 00:07:23.520 then you've got something else going on 191 00:07:24.720 --> 00:07:24.900 yeah 192 00:07:26.370 --> 00:07:28.200 so for me it was it was 193 00:07:28.200 --> 00:07:31.680 mainly finding something that is light and 194 00:07:31.830 --> 00:07:34.920 isn't isn't too expensive where i can 195 00:07:34.920 --> 00:07:36.450 go i can hunt for a week 196 00:07:36.450 --> 00:07:38.040 with it and i'm not you know 197 00:07:38.040 --> 00:07:39.600 i'm not worrying about only falling on 198 00:07:39.600 --> 00:07:41.040 it and getting a scratch or something 199 00:07:41.040 --> 00:07:43.050 like that is something that i can 200 00:07:43.110 --> 00:07:45.360 throw in a backpack and you know 201 00:07:45.360 --> 00:07:46.080 hike mine too 202 00:07:46.080 --> 00:07:48.240 miles out to my stand and set 203 00:07:48.240 --> 00:07:49.800 and it's going to it's going to 204 00:07:49.800 --> 00:07:50.970 go off and it's going to be 205 00:07:50.970 --> 00:07:53.580 accurate it it's still wild to me 206 00:07:53.580 --> 00:07:55.560 the people who hunt with like heirloom 207 00:07:55.560 --> 00:07:58.830 grade rifles and then they're very worried 208 00:07:58.830 --> 00:08:01.470 about scratching or damaging the air loom 209 00:08:01.470 --> 00:08:04.110 great rifle and amelie that if you 210 00:08:04.110 --> 00:08:06.210 leave that in the cakes polish 211 00:08:06.240 --> 00:08:08.761 oiled in and clean up you didn't 212 00:08:08.910 --> 00:08:11.480 touch the heirloom grade gun its own 213 00:08:11.490 --> 00:08:14.010 but like the yep leave it there 214 00:08:14.070 --> 00:08:17.220 looking pretty bright a beater guns get 215 00:08:17.220 --> 00:08:18.840 a field gun get a field grade 216 00:08:18.840 --> 00:08:21.180 gun for the field or don't be 217 00:08:21.180 --> 00:08:23.370 mad when the gun you take to 218 00:08:23.370 --> 00:08:24.390 the field gets 219 00:08:25.620 --> 00:08:28.050 dirty dirty and scratched and you know 220 00:08:28.410 --> 00:08:29.190 feel dumb 221 00:08:30.240 --> 00:08:32.580 the first rebel my first rifle was 222 00:08:32.580 --> 00:08:35.158 in nineteen forty three most of the 223 00:08:35.163 --> 00:08:38.400 gun ninety one thirty manufactured cesc and 224 00:08:39.000 --> 00:08:41.790 this gun i mean mostly from the 225 00:08:41.790 --> 00:08:44.460 mid war period recruited this gun i 226 00:08:44.490 --> 00:08:46.320 didn't even finish milling and it literally 227 00:08:46.320 --> 00:08:47.670 has a rigid metal 228 00:08:48.872 --> 00:08:50.160 makes me wonder if they made it 229 00:08:50.160 --> 00:08:53.340 right before the kursk mess up when 230 00:08:53.340 --> 00:08:55.260 the snow gets pushed the germans back 231 00:08:55.860 --> 00:08:59.370 ever lived literally every possible machining cut 232 00:08:59.400 --> 00:09:01.500 they could possibly like old met just 233 00:09:01.500 --> 00:09:02.490 so they can make a few more 234 00:09:02.490 --> 00:09:03.600 rifles on that line 235 00:09:04.800 --> 00:09:07.440 it's like dump waiting for a bonus 236 00:09:07.950 --> 00:09:12.480 you'll get birding sterling sterling submachine gun 237 00:09:12.510 --> 00:09:14.430 and three grease gun just like pomp 238 00:09:14.490 --> 00:09:17.700 these things act and you know what 239 00:09:17.790 --> 00:09:20.010 i remember i remember the good moz 240 00:09:20.010 --> 00:09:22.500 and eras where the the crates the 241 00:09:22.500 --> 00:09:23.760 i would i was getting into the 242 00:09:23.760 --> 00:09:24.960 market at the end of the game 243 00:09:25.050 --> 00:09:26.250 most areas of the end of the 244 00:09:26.250 --> 00:09:28.710 good crate on eras where light you 245 00:09:28.710 --> 00:09:30.150 could buy a dozen of these things 246 00:09:30.150 --> 00:09:31.590 or six of these things you pop 247 00:09:31.590 --> 00:09:33.210 it open and if only four of 248 00:09:33.210 --> 00:09:34.980 them were good are only three of 249 00:09:34.980 --> 00:09:36.750 them were good at the six you 250 00:09:36.750 --> 00:09:38.670 didn't care because you didn't spend that 251 00:09:38.670 --> 00:09:39.570 much money on it 252 00:09:41.370 --> 00:09:44.310 it it just happened to work i 253 00:09:44.310 --> 00:09:47.700 was i was very heavily looking at 254 00:09:47.700 --> 00:09:51.030 two of the crate gun rifles as 255 00:09:51.030 --> 00:09:52.650 my purse rifled didn't end up doing 256 00:09:52.650 --> 00:09:55.950 it but the first was obviously a 257 00:09:55.950 --> 00:09:57.990 moses seven sixty by fifty four great 258 00:09:58.020 --> 00:09:59.760 hunting you know great thirty gal hunting 259 00:09:59.760 --> 00:10:00.960 round you can find software 260 00:10:02.185 --> 00:10:05.125 and the rifles incredibly cheap and as 261 00:10:05.125 --> 00:10:06.565 long as the action will run and 262 00:10:06.565 --> 00:10:08.185 you can chamber around in it's proper 263 00:10:08.185 --> 00:10:08.725 going to work 264 00:10:09.955 --> 00:10:13.675 and accuracy will be here there but 265 00:10:13.675 --> 00:10:15.385 again if you're taking a sub two 266 00:10:15.385 --> 00:10:17.455 hundred shot on a the broad side 267 00:10:17.455 --> 00:10:20.155 of a whitetail you don't need superior 268 00:10:20.155 --> 00:10:22.765 accuracy to make that shot you know 269 00:10:22.825 --> 00:10:24.925 ethically and 270 00:10:26.665 --> 00:10:29.425 the other one was the original century 271 00:10:29.425 --> 00:10:30.805 imports of the p s l fifty 272 00:10:30.805 --> 00:10:32.845 fours which were also seven sixty like 273 00:10:32.935 --> 00:10:36.235 people were russian rifles but semi automatic 274 00:10:36.235 --> 00:10:38.845 ten round magazines back in the day 275 00:10:38.845 --> 00:10:40.514 you could get those for frickin length 276 00:10:40.514 --> 00:10:43.645 for forty nine for ninety nine ah 277 00:10:44.515 --> 00:10:45.685 there are a bunch of plate and 278 00:10:45.685 --> 00:10:46.204 sometimes they 279 00:10:46.315 --> 00:10:48.025 come with a scope for literally no 280 00:10:48.025 --> 00:10:50.485 extra costs and now like 281 00:10:51.655 --> 00:10:53.755 all what what are those costs now 282 00:10:54.355 --> 00:10:57.265 but twenty seven hundred twenty hundred retail 283 00:10:57.355 --> 00:10:59.575 on on the website yep 284 00:11:00.865 --> 00:11:03.475 that add things i should have done 285 00:11:05.365 --> 00:11:08.515 and africa but hundred dollars now 286 00:11:09.955 --> 00:11:13.135 or something yeah well what a what 287 00:11:13.405 --> 00:11:16.045 inflation is a bitch floods and 288 00:11:17.575 --> 00:11:19.315 don't let it don't let it bite 289 00:11:19.315 --> 00:11:22.495 you that that's all the say in 290 00:11:22.555 --> 00:11:24.895 in so many turn in so many 291 00:11:24.895 --> 00:11:27.685 words if you see the thing you 292 00:11:27.685 --> 00:11:30.055 want and you can make it happen 293 00:11:31.165 --> 00:11:33.475 make it happen like i'm not set 294 00:11:33.478 --> 00:11:35.605 and i am absolutely not saying delhi 295 00:11:35.665 --> 00:11:37.285 go into an absurd amount of debt 296 00:11:37.315 --> 00:11:39.955 miss a rent payment and don't buy 297 00:11:39.955 --> 00:11:41.725 groceries i'm not saying that but if 298 00:11:41.725 --> 00:11:43.135 you can make it happen and it 299 00:11:43.135 --> 00:11:44.635 will just make you a little tight 300 00:11:44.635 --> 00:11:45.955 for a month or something like that 301 00:11:45.955 --> 00:11:47.785 like allow you know we're not we're 302 00:11:47.785 --> 00:11:49.675 not going out to eat a couple 303 00:11:49.675 --> 00:11:50.815 of times a month to make this 304 00:11:50.815 --> 00:11:51.265 happen 305 00:11:52.315 --> 00:11:53.755 if you see the thing you walk 306 00:11:53.755 --> 00:11:55.855 right now especially if it's if it's 307 00:11:55.855 --> 00:11:58.345 your your first buy make it happen 308 00:11:59.395 --> 00:12:02.305 guys make make it happen ah because 309 00:12:03.115 --> 00:12:05.335 as as we can attest at least 310 00:12:05.335 --> 00:12:07.015 paul and i can attest having you 311 00:12:07.015 --> 00:12:08.245 know done this for a minute and 312 00:12:08.245 --> 00:12:11.455 caleb can too and we have been 313 00:12:11.455 --> 00:12:14.875 millennial crowd elder millennial crowd and our 314 00:12:14.875 --> 00:12:17.035 friends in the gen x crowd and 315 00:12:17.305 --> 00:12:19.645 it's it's not going to get the 316 00:12:19.645 --> 00:12:20.935 thing you want now is not going 317 00:12:20.935 --> 00:12:21.715 to get cheaper 318 00:12:23.005 --> 00:12:24.715 it it could go on sale so 319 00:12:24.715 --> 00:12:26.095 you can clinch a deal you know 320 00:12:26.305 --> 00:12:28.465 you might get cheaper than inside the 321 00:12:28.465 --> 00:12:29.965 six month window but it's not going 322 00:12:29.965 --> 00:12:31.915 to get cheaper down the road now 323 00:12:31.945 --> 00:12:33.985 i have a good example that joey 324 00:12:33.985 --> 00:12:35.815 and i were talking about for the 325 00:12:35.815 --> 00:12:40.165 show his scars and your scars started 326 00:12:40.195 --> 00:12:41.965 out as a twenty five hundred dollar 327 00:12:41.965 --> 00:12:42.895 rifle now there are third 328 00:12:42.895 --> 00:12:44.185 the five hundred dollar rifle and are 329 00:12:44.185 --> 00:12:47.725 discontinued and there's a f n teased 330 00:12:48.085 --> 00:12:50.245 earlier today as on a post on 331 00:12:50.245 --> 00:12:53.035 facebook fn teased the next rifle that 332 00:12:53.035 --> 00:12:55.795 they're going to come out with which 333 00:12:55.825 --> 00:12:57.505 i think is going to be an 334 00:12:57.505 --> 00:12:59.515 item us variant we will see an 335 00:12:59.515 --> 00:13:02.125 icy sea i'd have you experienced it 336 00:13:02.125 --> 00:13:02.845 might be 337 00:13:03.085 --> 00:13:04.435 version of their m r g d 338 00:13:04.435 --> 00:13:06.475 and the m variant which is an 339 00:13:06.475 --> 00:13:08.065 evolution on the scar you can tell 340 00:13:08.125 --> 00:13:10.465 by the receiver pattern and the the 341 00:13:10.675 --> 00:13:12.595 the i w ss evolution on scar 342 00:13:12.602 --> 00:13:14.725 to you you you can see you 343 00:13:14.725 --> 00:13:15.805 can see it all in the bill 344 00:13:15.865 --> 00:13:18.325 lights they're not reinventing the wheel they're 345 00:13:18.325 --> 00:13:20.425 continuing to refine it in the in 346 00:13:20.425 --> 00:13:23.125 that same manner as everyone else you 347 00:13:23.125 --> 00:13:23.215 know 348 00:13:23.245 --> 00:13:25.885 billing rifles these days they're just they're 349 00:13:25.885 --> 00:13:28.315 just trying to build the most efficient 350 00:13:28.315 --> 00:13:29.605 package they can put together 351 00:13:31.075 --> 00:13:33.775 that does things better than the last 352 00:13:33.775 --> 00:13:35.845 iteration to a degree that actually makes 353 00:13:35.845 --> 00:13:37.645 sense which was one of the failing 354 00:13:37.645 --> 00:13:39.505 points of the scar sixteen that the 355 00:13:39.505 --> 00:13:40.855 scar sixteen was a failure of a 356 00:13:40.855 --> 00:13:43.345 rifle from functionality extent when it functions 357 00:13:43.345 --> 00:13:44.605 great it was a failure of a 358 00:13:44.605 --> 00:13:47.365 rifle because it didn't do anything and 359 00:13:47.365 --> 00:13:50.755 four really couldn't do any degree that 360 00:13:51.175 --> 00:13:53.305 mattered in the in the scale of 361 00:13:53.305 --> 00:13:55.615 a military lose that and 362 00:13:57.085 --> 00:14:01.101 and so when when you're talking now 363 00:14:01.101 --> 00:14:02.245 and we have a we have a 364 00:14:02.245 --> 00:14:03.715 lot of friends and in the space 365 00:14:03.715 --> 00:14:05.725 who can talk about that yet crazy 366 00:14:05.725 --> 00:14:09.955 efficiency because there was that efficiency debate 367 00:14:09.955 --> 00:14:12.865 about piston vs you know directing gascon 368 00:14:14.275 --> 00:14:16.015 and we we've come back to the 369 00:14:16.015 --> 00:14:18.895 conclusion that directed gaskins you know talking 370 00:14:18.955 --> 00:14:20.993 talking about you know first rifles and 371 00:14:20.993 --> 00:14:23.965 first buys i've got my i've got 372 00:14:23.965 --> 00:14:26.725 my rage purchase sons gun my ridge 373 00:14:26.728 --> 00:14:30.565 purchase son's rifle here and which guys 374 00:14:30.625 --> 00:14:32.455 and if a if a is coming 375 00:14:32.455 --> 00:14:33.715 up so if you're looking into it 376 00:14:34.255 --> 00:14:36.895 i hear starting in twenty twenty six 377 00:14:36.925 --> 00:14:38.005 or if you want to buy it 378 00:14:38.005 --> 00:14:40.105 in twenty twenty five and wait which 379 00:14:40.105 --> 00:14:42.595 most and if a dealers will allow 380 00:14:42.595 --> 00:14:45.205 you to do from what i've heard 381 00:14:46.045 --> 00:14:48.385 around the space if you buy now 382 00:14:48.445 --> 00:14:51.355 you can wait on your on your 383 00:14:51.355 --> 00:14:54.415 stamp and they'll 384 00:14:54.445 --> 00:14:56.305 submitted jan one when you don't have 385 00:14:56.305 --> 00:14:57.715 to pay the two hundred dollars anymore 386 00:14:57.895 --> 00:15:01.525 so think about anaphase stuff if you 387 00:15:01.525 --> 00:15:03.445 want to get into this too because 388 00:15:04.195 --> 00:15:06.115 it's a it's an interesting landscape to 389 00:15:06.122 --> 00:15:08.125 think about what would what would the 390 00:15:08.125 --> 00:15:10.915 rifle landscape especially rifle and shotgun but 391 00:15:10.915 --> 00:15:12.925 what would the rifle landscape and the 392 00:15:12.951 --> 00:15:14.575 home defense shotgun landscape look 393 00:15:14.635 --> 00:15:17.155 like if we didn't have arbitrary barrel 394 00:15:17.155 --> 00:15:19.615 length restrictions we would see a lot 395 00:15:19.615 --> 00:15:22.885 more cool shorter guns and i'm looking 396 00:15:22.885 --> 00:15:24.595 forward to seeing a lot more cool 397 00:15:24.625 --> 00:15:25.525 shorter guns 398 00:15:26.785 --> 00:15:30.295 if we can actually eighty six the 399 00:15:30.325 --> 00:15:34.975 nfl for spr spss and cans but 400 00:15:34.975 --> 00:15:36.235 we will see we will see how 401 00:15:36.574 --> 00:15:39.205 that goes going forward i am dragging 402 00:15:39.205 --> 00:15:40.855 this tangent in weird ways we're no 403 00:15:40.855 --> 00:15:42.055 longer talking about 404 00:15:43.465 --> 00:15:46.105 buying your first rifle but i do 405 00:15:46.165 --> 00:15:46.915 i do like 406 00:15:48.415 --> 00:15:50.665 circling back this their rage purchased the 407 00:15:50.665 --> 00:15:52.285 sun's gone there that's the type of 408 00:15:52.285 --> 00:15:54.325 thing that like that that's that look 409 00:15:54.325 --> 00:15:56.215 at the used walls absolutely look at 410 00:15:56.215 --> 00:15:57.865 the used walls guys look the consignment 411 00:15:57.865 --> 00:15:59.695 walls cause that thing was sitting there 412 00:15:59.695 --> 00:16:01.435 for six ninety nine and i'm like 413 00:16:01.465 --> 00:16:02.815 oh well that's fine 414 00:16:05.605 --> 00:16:08.305 oh helena l dub once again it 415 00:16:08.305 --> 00:16:11.635 was brand new never issued like police 416 00:16:11.635 --> 00:16:14.425 surplus trading or whatever and set up 417 00:16:14.635 --> 00:16:17.275 two thousand dollar for twelve hundred if 418 00:16:17.277 --> 00:16:18.835 all in all it needed was an 419 00:16:18.835 --> 00:16:19.345 optic 420 00:16:20.755 --> 00:16:22.765 yeah i've got a i've got an 421 00:16:22.765 --> 00:16:25.165 old zeb before they got bought by 422 00:16:25.165 --> 00:16:27.085 sounds rico i've got a a zeb 423 00:16:27.745 --> 00:16:30.445 and sig build behind maintenance a sig 424 00:16:30.445 --> 00:16:32.005 upper on his ab lower and it's 425 00:16:32.005 --> 00:16:34.435 a sig eli five sixteen generation two 426 00:16:34.435 --> 00:16:38.215 upper adjustable gas piston with a fourteen 427 00:16:38.215 --> 00:16:40.045 and a half inch eli barrel and 428 00:16:40.045 --> 00:16:40.735 that got 429 00:16:40.765 --> 00:16:42.565 sent to a police department it sat 430 00:16:42.565 --> 00:16:44.755 in a warehouse until the police department 431 00:16:44.755 --> 00:16:47.305 was like okay well they do this 432 00:16:47.305 --> 00:16:49.735 is never getting issued so trade in 433 00:16:49.735 --> 00:16:52.555 value for whatever they chose either it 434 00:16:52.555 --> 00:16:54.295 went back to sig or it got 435 00:16:54.745 --> 00:16:57.835 pushed to like aim surplus i saw 436 00:16:57.865 --> 00:16:59.995 in surplus push ups on of these 437 00:16:59.995 --> 00:17:00.895 uppers out 438 00:17:01.255 --> 00:17:03.115 in various matches that they clearly had 439 00:17:03.115 --> 00:17:06.415 been snagging up from law enforcement departments 440 00:17:07.315 --> 00:17:08.605 and so it ended up being a 441 00:17:08.605 --> 00:17:10.375 fourteen and a half inch barreled with 442 00:17:10.375 --> 00:17:12.235 a pin and well a muzzle on 443 00:17:12.235 --> 00:17:13.915 it that's the only thing i swapped 444 00:17:13.915 --> 00:17:14.875 on it when i got it because 445 00:17:14.875 --> 00:17:16.675 the gun was another six ninety nine 446 00:17:16.675 --> 00:17:19.435 like there's no reason i can not 447 00:17:19.585 --> 00:17:21.055 buy this ayotte like i'm 448 00:17:21.055 --> 00:17:23.425 must the midwest me must buy this 449 00:17:23.425 --> 00:17:23.815 a r 450 00:17:25.195 --> 00:17:28.915 zeb zeb lower forward controls the hardware 451 00:17:28.915 --> 00:17:32.722 forward controls controls on it shout out 452 00:17:32.722 --> 00:17:35.185 to roger there and his super autism 453 00:17:35.305 --> 00:17:38.065 which make really really good air controls 454 00:17:38.095 --> 00:17:41.665 just really good not cheap but bp 455 00:17:42.925 --> 00:17:46.795 and so zev lower forward controls controls 456 00:17:46.855 --> 00:17:48.385 and and then 457 00:17:49.615 --> 00:17:51.625 that said gen two upper the eli 458 00:17:51.625 --> 00:17:53.905 upper and saw you're looking at like 459 00:17:53.995 --> 00:17:55.615 you with your elda you're looking like 460 00:17:55.615 --> 00:17:58.975 a two thousand dollar rifle setup in 461 00:17:58.975 --> 00:18:01.495 your life and they're selling it for 462 00:18:01.495 --> 00:18:03.205 six ninety nine and the only thing 463 00:18:03.205 --> 00:18:04.885 i added was a surefire muzzle as 464 00:18:04.885 --> 00:18:08.185 opposed to the break with whatever muzzle 465 00:18:08.185 --> 00:18:09.775 he had on another remote 466 00:18:09.775 --> 00:18:10.015 ever 467 00:18:11.215 --> 00:18:12.715 i added a sure fire three prong 468 00:18:12.715 --> 00:18:14.395 flash hider and it's alright cool now 469 00:18:14.395 --> 00:18:15.595 i can run my sure fire canes 470 00:18:15.835 --> 00:18:17.935 and the gun costs nine hundred dollars 471 00:18:21.895 --> 00:18:23.335 yeah that's not bad in a way 472 00:18:23.635 --> 00:18:25.765 they're out there guiseley check check the 473 00:18:25.765 --> 00:18:28.705 walls checker check your lg ss check 474 00:18:28.705 --> 00:18:32.125 and check those used sections that sometimes 475 00:18:32.125 --> 00:18:34.885 there are just some absurdly good deals 476 00:18:34.885 --> 00:18:36.835 to be had and if you were 477 00:18:36.835 --> 00:18:39.295 looking going back to buy 478 00:18:39.295 --> 00:18:40.495 on your first rifle if you are 479 00:18:40.495 --> 00:18:43.225 looking at first rifles i highly recommend 480 00:18:43.225 --> 00:18:46.045 going factory complete at the you know 481 00:18:46.045 --> 00:18:48.625 at the most go factory assembled lower 482 00:18:48.625 --> 00:18:51.025 receiver factories assembled upper receiver and then 483 00:18:51.025 --> 00:18:52.615 you can combine the two for whatever 484 00:18:52.615 --> 00:18:55.675 barrel length and caliber combination you want 485 00:18:56.515 --> 00:18:59.455 but go factor because factory parts 486 00:18:59.515 --> 00:19:02.695 have factory service behind them if there 487 00:19:02.695 --> 00:19:04.075 is a problem you can go talk 488 00:19:04.075 --> 00:19:05.785 to somebody and being like hey you 489 00:19:05.785 --> 00:19:07.405 guys built this it's not working can 490 00:19:07.405 --> 00:19:09.685 you help if it is your own 491 00:19:09.685 --> 00:19:11.515 assembly you are on your own there's 492 00:19:11.515 --> 00:19:12.775 a lot of fun to be had 493 00:19:12.775 --> 00:19:15.505 building your own stuff guys do but 494 00:19:15.535 --> 00:19:17.395 if you want the if you want 495 00:19:17.395 --> 00:19:19.615 the peace of mind that comes 496 00:19:19.615 --> 00:19:21.055 with some one else is also on 497 00:19:21.055 --> 00:19:22.555 the hook to make this thing work 498 00:19:22.825 --> 00:19:25.585 get factory go go for factory stuff 499 00:19:28.465 --> 00:19:29.275 oh 500 00:19:30.775 --> 00:19:33.715 his talk about calibers oh yeah calibers 501 00:19:33.715 --> 00:19:35.935 are good ones do you go do 502 00:19:35.935 --> 00:19:37.763 you go for spicy exotic caliber or 503 00:19:37.763 --> 00:19:41.335 do you go for something something mundane 504 00:19:41.335 --> 00:19:43.194 and boring but very very accessible and 505 00:19:43.194 --> 00:19:46.015 usually affordable and i will opt for 506 00:19:46.075 --> 00:19:49.285 the latter ninety nine percent of the 507 00:19:49.285 --> 00:19:50.575 time if you 508 00:19:50.605 --> 00:19:55.315 go exotic caliber you usually have a 509 00:19:55.315 --> 00:19:57.025 purpose in mind for it you are 510 00:19:57.025 --> 00:19:58.975 investing for it for a very specific 511 00:19:58.975 --> 00:20:01.975 reason the most common often is precision 512 00:20:01.975 --> 00:20:04.075 rifle shoot like you are getting into 513 00:20:04.075 --> 00:20:05.635 this caliber because it's going to do 514 00:20:05.635 --> 00:20:08.365 a specific thing for you and if 515 00:20:08.365 --> 00:20:10.645 you think that your exotic calibers 516 00:20:11.310 --> 00:20:12.810 troll caliber for the end of the 517 00:20:12.810 --> 00:20:15.090 world or without rule of law or 518 00:20:15.090 --> 00:20:17.760 whatever emergency situation that no no no 519 00:20:17.940 --> 00:20:19.290 there there you want to go to 520 00:20:19.290 --> 00:20:20.070 junior catholic 521 00:20:21.600 --> 00:20:23.220 get out of your exotic go generic 522 00:20:23.730 --> 00:20:24.360 and 523 00:20:26.760 --> 00:20:28.920 or back to joey's point if he 524 00:20:28.950 --> 00:20:30.990 if this is a hunting gun get 525 00:20:30.990 --> 00:20:32.640 what you get something that's comfortable for 526 00:20:32.640 --> 00:20:33.930 you to shoot and then covers the 527 00:20:33.930 --> 00:20:36.120 range envelope he won't get debt look 528 00:20:36.120 --> 00:20:38.460 at thirty thirties look at three fifty 529 00:20:38.460 --> 00:20:40.770 seven magnums depending on where you're hunting 530 00:20:40.830 --> 00:20:42.390 what you're hunting like a three fifty 531 00:20:42.390 --> 00:20:44.040 legend you can look at forty five 532 00:20:44.040 --> 00:20:45.570 seventy four fifty bush mass 533 00:20:45.570 --> 00:20:46.830 easter and the and the and these 534 00:20:46.830 --> 00:20:49.740 big ones out there but look 535 00:20:50.880 --> 00:20:53.040 looks look for something that is really 536 00:20:53.040 --> 00:20:55.260 comfortable to shoot especially if we want 537 00:20:55.260 --> 00:20:57.450 to shoot because i can i can 538 00:20:57.450 --> 00:20:59.550 tell you from experience if you go 539 00:20:59.550 --> 00:21:01.110 with the caliber you think you want 540 00:21:01.110 --> 00:21:04.645 just because and power and or ten 541 00:21:04.645 --> 00:21:05.940 rounds in you're going to be like 542 00:21:06.240 --> 00:21:08.370 this isn't fun no more yeah i 543 00:21:08.370 --> 00:21:10.050 don't have any more twenty round mags 544 00:21:10.050 --> 00:21:11.010 for my aerator 545 00:21:11.010 --> 00:21:12.330 then it just ends 546 00:21:14.880 --> 00:21:16.710 can't add both of your points i 547 00:21:16.710 --> 00:21:18.810 like to do the what i call 548 00:21:18.810 --> 00:21:20.580 the walmart rule if they sell at 549 00:21:20.580 --> 00:21:22.200 walk if they sell this caliber at 550 00:21:22.200 --> 00:21:25.140 walmart it is like good to go 551 00:21:25.140 --> 00:21:26.760 it's universal they don't have it at 552 00:21:26.760 --> 00:21:30.713 walmart it's a nice caliber rapid that 553 00:21:30.780 --> 00:21:33.030 the that actually have another rule as 554 00:21:33.030 --> 00:21:33.570 far as excel 555 00:21:33.570 --> 00:21:36.510 isabella those as it escaped as it 556 00:21:36.510 --> 00:21:39.420 escaped the gun circles into mainstream recount 557 00:21:39.750 --> 00:21:42.210 if it has that's probably a very 558 00:21:42.210 --> 00:21:44.010 expensive because you will you will find 559 00:21:44.010 --> 00:21:45.450 two twenty three five five six you 560 00:21:45.450 --> 00:21:47.220 will find really you can even find 561 00:21:47.220 --> 00:21:50.070 six fine sometimes and on walmart shelves 562 00:21:50.340 --> 00:21:52.860 i've seen six five from federal is 563 00:21:52.950 --> 00:21:53.730 seen six lives 564 00:21:53.730 --> 00:21:54.150 our point 565 00:21:55.811 --> 00:21:57.780 part hassan like a standard it's a 566 00:21:57.930 --> 00:21:59.970 commonly stopping yup 567 00:22:00.810 --> 00:22:03.030 and that's man that's an interesting one 568 00:22:03.030 --> 00:22:05.010 where we're turning this episode into caliber 569 00:22:05.010 --> 00:22:05.610 episode now 570 00:22:07.140 --> 00:22:09.330 brevet the last few minutes here there's 571 00:22:09.330 --> 00:22:11.610 an interesting thing that weaved about a 572 00:22:11.610 --> 00:22:14.010 little offline a couple of hymns 573 00:22:15.210 --> 00:22:16.980 how does a niche in malaga become 574 00:22:16.980 --> 00:22:21.090 mainstream and a hasty handsome buddy you 575 00:22:21.090 --> 00:22:21.630 wanna talk 576 00:22:24.030 --> 00:22:26.820 it has to hit the rafer it 577 00:22:26.820 --> 00:22:28.680 has to check all the boxes i 578 00:22:28.680 --> 00:22:31.350 don't just mean performance boxes because there 579 00:22:31.350 --> 00:22:33.090 are a lot of six mil seven 580 00:22:33.090 --> 00:22:35.400 mil six five six eight near a 581 00:22:35.400 --> 00:22:37.740 lot of good precision rifle calibers that 582 00:22:37.740 --> 00:22:39.690 do not check these boxes the only 583 00:22:39.690 --> 00:22:41.790 one that has in recent times is 584 00:22:41.790 --> 00:22:42.690 six five creedmoor 585 00:22:43.680 --> 00:22:45.990 and it has to check these proper 586 00:22:45.990 --> 00:22:50.220 boxes of not only performance increase but 587 00:22:50.310 --> 00:22:54.540 accessibility cost and part of accessibility that's 588 00:22:54.544 --> 00:22:58.470 the cost and comfort in shooting which 589 00:22:58.470 --> 00:23:00.870 is something six five has over three 590 00:23:00.870 --> 00:23:02.610 late that i think gets overlooked a 591 00:23:02.610 --> 00:23:02.970 lot 592 00:23:03.120 --> 00:23:04.650 six five is more comfortable to shoot 593 00:23:04.650 --> 00:23:06.420 than three but it has less recoil 594 00:23:06.600 --> 00:23:08.550 it doesn't beat you up quite as 595 00:23:08.550 --> 00:23:11.700 much but it has an increased performance 596 00:23:11.700 --> 00:23:14.130 envelope for most metrics over three only 597 00:23:14.640 --> 00:23:16.410 it's easier to shoot at a greater 598 00:23:16.410 --> 00:23:18.150 distance because it bucks the wind better 599 00:23:18.570 --> 00:23:20.970 under most circumstances and then it still 600 00:23:20.970 --> 00:23:23.130 has the medium game capable 601 00:23:24.270 --> 00:23:26.850 take envelope of just about anything you 602 00:23:26.850 --> 00:23:28.470 can shoot and take with a thrill 603 00:23:28.470 --> 00:23:29.550 it you can shoot and take with 604 00:23:29.550 --> 00:23:32.460 six five either expanding ballistic tip or 605 00:23:32.550 --> 00:23:36.630 or soft point so shoot farther less 606 00:23:36.630 --> 00:23:40.470 recoil same you you can build all 607 00:23:40.470 --> 00:23:41.880 the guns that are in three o 608 00:23:41.880 --> 00:23:43.260 eight can be built around a six 609 00:23:43.260 --> 00:23:43.410 five 610 00:23:43.410 --> 00:23:45.000 five just about most of them are 611 00:23:45.000 --> 00:23:46.560 right now whether they're bolt guns or 612 00:23:46.560 --> 00:23:50.130 gas guns so you have you have 613 00:23:50.130 --> 00:23:53.850 this perfect balanced combination of factors that 614 00:23:53.850 --> 00:23:56.580 have allowed six five did succeed and 615 00:23:56.580 --> 00:23:58.620 that's before we touch on the very 616 00:23:58.620 --> 00:24:01.320 strong presence of six five in like 617 00:24:01.950 --> 00:24:03.330 the socom circles there are a lot 618 00:24:03.330 --> 00:24:03.570 of six 619 00:24:03.630 --> 00:24:05.430 five guns that have ended up in 620 00:24:05.430 --> 00:24:08.278 the hands of the special operators and 621 00:24:08.278 --> 00:24:10.170 the mid range gas gun concept that 622 00:24:10.170 --> 00:24:12.270 has been developed over the last couple 623 00:24:12.270 --> 00:24:14.850 of years he centered around six fives 624 00:24:14.850 --> 00:24:16.650 fourteen and a half inch barrels and 625 00:24:16.740 --> 00:24:20.490 and longer barreled six fives so that 626 00:24:20.490 --> 00:24:23.460 they have that increased rage envelope that 627 00:24:23.460 --> 00:24:23.730 increase 628 00:24:23.730 --> 00:24:27.120 nice performance and lower recoil lower recoil 629 00:24:27.120 --> 00:24:29.550 works for them too because follow up 630 00:24:29.550 --> 00:24:30.390 shots are a thing 631 00:24:32.028 --> 00:24:33.000 also like how 632 00:24:34.140 --> 00:24:36.510 there was going to add and in 633 00:24:36.510 --> 00:24:38.068 addition to all those great things the 634 00:24:38.068 --> 00:24:40.590 hold in mill at least for mills 635 00:24:40.590 --> 00:24:42.360 as she mills holes between five five 636 00:24:42.360 --> 00:24:45.180 six and six five creedmoor almost identical 637 00:24:45.180 --> 00:24:46.440 at five hundred yards 638 00:24:47.550 --> 00:24:49.170 oh come up to mills at four 639 00:24:49.170 --> 00:24:51.000 hundred around three at five you don't 640 00:24:51.000 --> 00:24:52.470 even have to think about it if 641 00:24:52.470 --> 00:24:55.470 you're used to shooting both it's just 642 00:24:55.470 --> 00:24:58.920 the setting that's that wonderful compare ability 643 00:24:58.920 --> 00:25:00.480 of like seventy seven grain five of 644 00:25:00.480 --> 00:25:03.450 six ballistics in muzzle velocity with six 645 00:25:03.450 --> 00:25:06.150 five ballistics and muzzle velocity and you've 646 00:25:06.150 --> 00:25:07.650 got you've got very very 647 00:25:07.650 --> 00:25:09.900 the flat trajectories at about those round 648 00:25:10.170 --> 00:25:12.720 whereas three awaits a lobbed around especially 649 00:25:12.720 --> 00:25:15.390 in the heavy match stuff cause people 650 00:25:15.390 --> 00:25:18.180 don't remember the three latest slower through 651 00:25:18.180 --> 00:25:21.000 it's almost middle velocity when it comes 652 00:25:21.000 --> 00:25:24.030 to those heavy realistically good rounds as 653 00:25:24.030 --> 00:25:26.220 opposed to high velocity were like six 654 00:25:26.220 --> 00:25:27.750 flatten even 655 00:25:27.810 --> 00:25:31.230 heavily awesome seven grain of five six 656 00:25:31.230 --> 00:25:32.940 and punches into that eye velocity 657 00:25:35.250 --> 00:25:37.710 getting paid my mail's here 658 00:25:40.380 --> 00:25:41.400 dogs are gardens 659 00:25:42.900 --> 00:25:45.270 so yeah there's there's not to be 660 00:25:45.270 --> 00:25:47.490 sober burton number like six five 661 00:25:49.050 --> 00:25:50.880 on three main than just eating that 662 00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:55.080 from the battlements or backless where there's 663 00:25:55.080 --> 00:25:58.260 a demountable performance increase and you can 664 00:25:58.260 --> 00:25:59.761 get a lot of the factors that 665 00:25:59.790 --> 00:26:02.310 you sting have had out of the 666 00:26:02.310 --> 00:26:04.950 previous iterations and the related ratings begun 667 00:26:06.510 --> 00:26:09.470 and i think to touch back on 668 00:26:09.470 --> 00:26:12.338 the flashpoint again losing the star sixteen 669 00:26:12.671 --> 00:26:13.890 of six version of the star did 670 00:26:13.890 --> 00:26:15.810 not take off is there wasn't that 671 00:26:15.810 --> 00:26:19.770 debunked the former simply there were edenic 672 00:26:19.770 --> 00:26:22.380 performance increases that snore sixteen his aunt 673 00:26:22.410 --> 00:26:25.140 uber more reluctant mote than they were 674 00:26:25.140 --> 00:26:26.130 blackening specially 675 00:26:26.180 --> 00:26:27.930 have the early two thousands era both 676 00:26:28.350 --> 00:26:31.500 rubidium cleaners and temperamental with them at 677 00:26:31.500 --> 00:26:32.070 nine two 678 00:26:33.330 --> 00:26:34.938 but when you are looking at the 679 00:26:34.985 --> 00:26:37.290 rifle that's like alright this gun will 680 00:26:37.290 --> 00:26:39.360 almost certainly would like ninety nine to 681 00:26:39.450 --> 00:26:43.290 ninety nine percents reliability this done will 682 00:26:43.290 --> 00:26:45.672 run five or six mags before you 683 00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:48.210 add any issue whatsoever and then you 684 00:26:48.210 --> 00:26:49.200 look at the scar and it's like 685 00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:51.240 that gun will run nine mags before 686 00:26:51.240 --> 00:26:53.250 you have any issue you know what 687 00:26:53.250 --> 00:26:55.770 however before you even flirt with a 688 00:26:55.770 --> 00:26:58.950 sancho and you're gonna like alright which 689 00:26:59.010 --> 00:27:01.164 which gunfight line eat perfect ruin the 690 00:27:01.164 --> 00:27:04.200 ability for my mags versus eggs and 691 00:27:04.260 --> 00:27:06.420 it turns out that like both of 692 00:27:06.420 --> 00:27:07.830 those really good so 693 00:27:09.210 --> 00:27:12.990 you know academic britain's and france's still 694 00:27:12.990 --> 00:27:14.070 have my smith she's not going to 695 00:27:14.070 --> 00:27:15.960 get rid of them especially in discontinued 696 00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:20.850 ugh anything else gentlemen 697 00:27:22.740 --> 00:27:23.700 things like i'll lama 698 00:27:25.860 --> 00:27:28.290 go look for deals guys enjoy a 699 00:27:28.300 --> 00:27:29.970 the as as this is for them 700 00:27:29.970 --> 00:27:31.401 to be coming out right around the 701 00:27:31.590 --> 00:27:33.630 there's some people that already advertising another 702 00:27:33.630 --> 00:27:35.730 black friday savings and can been for 703 00:27:35.730 --> 00:27:37.590 a week like monet's of black friday 704 00:27:37.590 --> 00:27:40.800 anymore it's just november but you mostly 705 00:27:40.800 --> 00:27:43.440 get the best deals on the friday 706 00:27:43.440 --> 00:27:45.090 itself but again 707 00:27:45.300 --> 00:27:48.090 if you see it quantitative if you 708 00:27:48.090 --> 00:27:49.980 see click click my if you can 709 00:27:49.980 --> 00:27:52.860 afford but by we are in authority 710 00:27:52.860 --> 00:27:55.470 your time then move inventory especially you 711 00:27:55.560 --> 00:27:58.254 room and board right now and the 712 00:27:58.254 --> 00:28:00.900 local retailers will appreciate is only twenty 713 00:28:00.900 --> 00:28:03.240 five has not been an awesome year 714 00:28:03.330 --> 00:28:04.710 so if you see it and you've 715 00:28:04.710 --> 00:28:05.250 got the cash 716 00:28:05.250 --> 00:28:08.250 ash go get it enjoy enjoy some 717 00:28:08.250 --> 00:28:10.740 time out gets a mantle get a 718 00:28:10.740 --> 00:28:12.000 rifle get your first rifle 719 00:28:13.320 --> 00:28:15.990 and the wonderful thing about first rifles 720 00:28:15.990 --> 00:28:17.130 as we've seen with a lot of 721 00:28:17.130 --> 00:28:19.770 a first time gun buyers that joey 722 00:28:19.770 --> 00:28:23.160 and pollen i know for some gun 723 00:28:23.160 --> 00:28:25.920 buyers turn into repeat gun buyers there's 724 00:28:25.920 --> 00:28:27.660 a reason that the average number of 725 00:28:27.750 --> 00:28:29.550 firearms in the home has increased from 726 00:28:29.550 --> 00:28:31.170 four to eight over the last ten 727 00:28:31.170 --> 00:28:33.330 years cause these things are 728 00:28:33.330 --> 00:28:34.500 fun and they have a way of 729 00:28:34.500 --> 00:28:35.040 multiplying 730 00:28:36.210 --> 00:28:37.680 that's all we got guys we will 731 00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:39.630 catch you next time later