WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.130 --> 00:00:05.005 what's up guys i am caleb and 2 00:00:05.010 --> 00:00:07.650 i am keith and i have no 3 00:00:07.740 --> 00:00:09.660 little jack here with me today as 4 00:00:09.660 --> 00:00:11.640 i am on the road or the 5 00:00:11.640 --> 00:00:14.730 reception of little jack was very positive 6 00:00:14.730 --> 00:00:15.900 thank you so much guys for the 7 00:00:15.900 --> 00:00:18.120 comments and stuff like that to answer 8 00:00:18.120 --> 00:00:19.200 one of the questions that i got 9 00:00:19.200 --> 00:00:20.160 knew he is not 10 00:00:20.340 --> 00:00:23.580 named after jack our friend and he 11 00:00:23.580 --> 00:00:25.860 is named after my grandfather jackson the 12 00:00:25.860 --> 00:00:28.230 fact that we call them both jack 13 00:00:28.230 --> 00:00:30.720 was purely a coincidence that i personally 14 00:00:30.720 --> 00:00:32.820 enjoyed and i it is a a 15 00:00:32.820 --> 00:00:34.800 deep sadness that little jack never got 16 00:00:34.800 --> 00:00:36.210 to meet big jack because that would 17 00:00:36.210 --> 00:00:38.040 have been that would have been great 18 00:00:38.160 --> 00:00:40.320 that that would have been fantastic 19 00:00:40.320 --> 00:00:43.350 thick jack jack always did very very 20 00:00:43.530 --> 00:00:46.170 very well kids loved jack like him 21 00:00:46.890 --> 00:00:47.640 respectfully 22 00:00:48.780 --> 00:00:52.170 actual giant from storybooks lay it's like 23 00:00:52.320 --> 00:00:53.790 oh we're reading about the big gentle 24 00:00:53.790 --> 00:00:55.530 giants oh my god a big gentle 25 00:00:55.530 --> 00:00:59.160 giant so yeah i i would have 26 00:00:59.160 --> 00:01:01.110 loved that unfortunately never got to happen 27 00:01:01.110 --> 00:01:03.660 but again thank you everyone for who 28 00:01:03.660 --> 00:01:06.300 dmt and live comments and stuff about 29 00:01:06.300 --> 00:01:07.710 like that my son's the the best 30 00:01:08.340 --> 00:01:08.880 anyway this 31 00:01:08.910 --> 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keeps getting 46 00:01:45.360 --> 00:01:47.010 bumped so like it'll get to like 47 00:01:47.040 --> 00:01:49.170 six and then like three 48 00:01:49.230 --> 00:01:50.340 things will get added so now it's 49 00:01:50.340 --> 00:01:51.960 down to nine and then it'll like 50 00:01:53.333 --> 00:01:56.070 this submit for either be waived for 51 00:01:57.240 --> 00:01:59.550 five days it's very important especially to 52 00:01:59.550 --> 00:01:59.970 me 53 00:02:02.460 --> 00:02:03.960 i could have submitted it friday and 54 00:02:03.960 --> 00:02:05.070 i'm like nah i'll take care of 55 00:02:05.070 --> 00:02:07.860 it this weekend saturday now i was 56 00:02:07.860 --> 00:02:10.320 training sunday now i was training monday 57 00:02:10.710 --> 00:02:12.870 and i've been reminded like hey smith 58 00:02:12.870 --> 00:02:14.128 of thing make sure you submit the 59 00:02:14.128 --> 00:02:18.180 thing we're good and i'm like cool 60 00:02:18.480 --> 00:02:20.910 yolk this one's even worse because it 61 00:02:20.910 --> 00:02:22.080 is entirely 62 00:02:22.080 --> 00:02:25.110 he on me to remember to do 63 00:02:25.110 --> 00:02:26.130 it and send it over to the 64 00:02:26.130 --> 00:02:27.750 client because the client is not going 65 00:02:27.750 --> 00:02:30.150 to demand it it's for a piece 66 00:02:30.150 --> 00:02:32.310 of like semi gratis work that they're 67 00:02:32.310 --> 00:02:33.780 doing for us and he did some 68 00:02:33.780 --> 00:02:35.640 terrible video that was shot by someone 69 00:02:35.640 --> 00:02:37.080 else that we paid too much money 70 00:02:37.080 --> 00:02:40.590 to shoot terrible video which that's another 71 00:02:40.590 --> 00:02:42.060 i do sometimes 72 00:02:42.540 --> 00:02:45.090 oh my god hey so today in 73 00:02:45.540 --> 00:02:48.540 marketing pet peeves my biggest marketing pet 74 00:02:48.540 --> 00:02:50.580 peeve is when i pay someone a 75 00:02:50.580 --> 00:02:52.260 lot of money for a deliverable and 76 00:02:52.260 --> 00:02:55.860 the deliverable is terrible and or worse 77 00:02:56.280 --> 00:02:57.540 i pay someone for a lot of 78 00:02:57.540 --> 00:02:59.700 money and the deliverable i could have 79 00:02:59.700 --> 00:03:00.810 shot on my iphone 80 00:03:02.160 --> 00:03:06.360 and that that one is yeah i 81 00:03:06.360 --> 00:03:07.740 do not like that one i do 82 00:03:07.740 --> 00:03:08.970 not i do not like when i 83 00:03:08.970 --> 00:03:10.410 see that one i've got a couple 84 00:03:10.410 --> 00:03:12.840 of those out project outstanding right now 85 00:03:12.840 --> 00:03:14.790 from people i haven't worked with 86 00:03:15.870 --> 00:03:17.580 previously so i'm not sure what the 87 00:03:17.580 --> 00:03:20.340 deliverable is going to be then i'm 88 00:03:20.340 --> 00:03:20.700 like 89 00:03:22.530 --> 00:03:25.860 guess i'll wait unrelated to that speaking 90 00:03:25.860 --> 00:03:29.340 of good deliverables the first tourist expedition 91 00:03:29.340 --> 00:03:32.400 adventure video featuring me going to f 92 00:03:32.400 --> 00:03:34.020 t w ranch will be available at 93 00:03:34.020 --> 00:03:37.170 some point on amazon prime video our 94 00:03:37.470 --> 00:03:39.450 distributor got it to prime prime agree 95 00:03:39.450 --> 00:03:40.860 to pick it up we're just waiting 96 00:03:40.860 --> 00:03:42.000 on the details 97 00:03:42.085 --> 00:03:43.470 of the thing whether it's going to 98 00:03:43.470 --> 00:03:45.419 be a free like on watch on 99 00:03:45.424 --> 00:03:48.450 freebie or whether it's like or whether 100 00:03:48.450 --> 00:03:49.500 it's going to be free for prime 101 00:03:49.500 --> 00:03:50.580 members or if it's going to be 102 00:03:50.580 --> 00:03:53.940 a rental that's interestingly that is amazon's 103 00:03:54.870 --> 00:03:56.760 decision on what it is not mine 104 00:03:56.760 --> 00:03:57.690 because i would just make it free 105 00:03:57.690 --> 00:04:00.540 for the world on prime but that's 106 00:04:00.540 --> 00:04:02.160 that's an entirely up to amazon thing 107 00:04:02.160 --> 00:04:05.400 which i dig it there's so many 108 00:04:05.400 --> 00:04:07.230 aspects of my job where i am 109 00:04:07.230 --> 00:04:10.350 dealing in areas that i never thought 110 00:04:10.350 --> 00:04:11.340 i would have to deal with and 111 00:04:11.340 --> 00:04:14.700 frequently don't understand like international trademark law 112 00:04:14.970 --> 00:04:17.910 and streaming distribution services another one of 113 00:04:17.910 --> 00:04:19.650 those but you do understand keith 114 00:04:21.150 --> 00:04:25.650 pistols zeroes pistols two pistol zero so 115 00:04:25.920 --> 00:04:28.140 after our show on the twenty five 116 00:04:28.530 --> 00:04:30.780 yard slash meters zero for rifles which 117 00:04:30.780 --> 00:04:34.710 got a hilariously wrong comment from someone 118 00:04:34.710 --> 00:04:36.300 like right off the bat i mean 119 00:04:36.300 --> 00:04:36.630 it was 120 00:04:37.680 --> 00:04:39.690 three paragraphs of this guy being wrong 121 00:04:39.690 --> 00:04:41.160 about things 122 00:04:42.720 --> 00:04:44.310 we did get a request on a 123 00:04:45.060 --> 00:04:49.140 guy's rear boat military instructors and deeply 124 00:04:49.140 --> 00:04:52.320 understand the flaws in that zero like 125 00:04:53.010 --> 00:04:56.159 it's bad it's not so good it's 126 00:04:56.159 --> 00:04:57.750 it is the and he was like 127 00:04:57.750 --> 00:04:59.850 no the rise at two hundred yards 128 00:04:59.850 --> 00:05:02.100 is only like four inches and i 129 00:05:02.100 --> 00:05:02.400 plugged 130 00:05:02.490 --> 00:05:04.950 into like four different ballistics calculators and 131 00:05:04.950 --> 00:05:07.110 i know it's it's not it's your 132 00:05:07.380 --> 00:05:10.200 best case scenario is if you do 133 00:05:10.230 --> 00:05:11.580 so as a fun fact with a 134 00:05:11.670 --> 00:05:14.190 twenty five meters zero with oh he 135 00:05:14.190 --> 00:05:16.080 also said my my favorite one was 136 00:05:16.080 --> 00:05:17.550 that he said that i said that 137 00:05:17.550 --> 00:05:20.940 i am a five five was faster 138 00:05:20.970 --> 00:05:22.560 than an one ninety three 139 00:05:22.560 --> 00:05:23.760 three and i never said that i 140 00:05:23.760 --> 00:05:25.410 said mm five five jan one is 141 00:05:25.410 --> 00:05:26.790 faster than what i said and make 142 00:05:26.792 --> 00:05:28.380 five five a one out of a 143 00:05:28.380 --> 00:05:30.300 sixteen inch barrel is faster than n 144 00:05:30.300 --> 00:05:31.560 one ninety three out of a sixteen 145 00:05:31.560 --> 00:05:33.750 inch barrel because it is said to 146 00:05:34.500 --> 00:05:37.038 be the powder burn in four five 147 00:05:37.050 --> 00:05:39.570 a one is literally the spicy blend 148 00:05:39.570 --> 00:05:40.860 we've come up with for five five 149 00:05:40.860 --> 00:05:42.720 six nato it is it's basically b 150 00:05:42.720 --> 00:05:44.580 love is wicked piss in hot reloads 151 00:05:44.640 --> 00:05:46.260 except manufactured by lake city 152 00:05:47.640 --> 00:05:49.260 cause it will actually cause it does 153 00:05:49.260 --> 00:05:50.850 actually blow goods up sometimes 154 00:05:52.348 --> 00:05:54.720 accused barrels guys like the barrel life 155 00:05:54.720 --> 00:05:56.430 on the m four is not great 156 00:05:56.430 --> 00:05:58.350 when we're shooting a one do can 157 00:05:58.350 --> 00:06:02.610 you imagine like the combination of em 158 00:06:02.610 --> 00:06:04.620 six or of 'em for a ones 159 00:06:04.770 --> 00:06:07.800 with full auto and m five p 160 00:06:07.890 --> 00:06:09.480 m eight five five a one in 161 00:06:09.480 --> 00:06:12.123 some sort of sustained combat operation gunfight 162 00:06:12.240 --> 00:06:14.100 these are just full auto mag change 163 00:06:14.100 --> 00:06:16.140 for automatic change the guns will die 164 00:06:16.590 --> 00:06:18.540 yeah that would that that would get 165 00:06:18.600 --> 00:06:20.910 real spicy in a hurry but back 166 00:06:20.910 --> 00:06:21.450 to that 167 00:06:22.800 --> 00:06:26.220 zero an episode i almost almost i 168 00:06:26.220 --> 00:06:27.930 refrained because we weren't talking about it 169 00:06:27.930 --> 00:06:29.894 but i almost dropped the caveat that 170 00:06:29.970 --> 00:06:32.100 hey guys after it i don't know 171 00:06:32.100 --> 00:06:33.330 if it would have changed the comment 172 00:06:33.330 --> 00:06:35.370 but asked if we are talking about 173 00:06:35.370 --> 00:06:39.420 pistol caliber carbines or pistols heroes 174 00:06:41.010 --> 00:06:43.770 twenty five enters the table of possibility 175 00:06:43.770 --> 00:06:46.890 again guys and actually becomes for and 176 00:06:46.890 --> 00:06:48.450 so interestingly i 177 00:06:49.950 --> 00:06:51.330 this will come as no surprise to 178 00:06:51.330 --> 00:06:53.340 anyone who has watched the show but 179 00:06:53.370 --> 00:06:57.900 i have gone from very dogmatic to 180 00:06:58.200 --> 00:07:01.050 not at all interested in arguing with 181 00:07:01.050 --> 00:07:03.720 people about what distance to zero your 182 00:07:03.720 --> 00:07:06.180 defense your your pistol at because i 183 00:07:06.180 --> 00:07:08.070 have pistols and pccs that are zero 184 00:07:08.102 --> 00:07:09.780 at multiple that like 185 00:07:09.840 --> 00:07:11.160 everything i think all sorts of different 186 00:07:11.160 --> 00:07:12.270 distances so 187 00:07:13.440 --> 00:07:16.440 what i will start with is caleb's 188 00:07:16.440 --> 00:07:21.420 rule of thumb on design on a 189 00:07:21.630 --> 00:07:24.900 if i had to pick one zero 190 00:07:24.900 --> 00:07:28.830 distance that i would use across every 191 00:07:28.830 --> 00:07:32.010 handgun platform pccs are excluded from this 192 00:07:32.010 --> 00:07:33.600 conversation for now but will 193 00:07:33.600 --> 00:07:34.920 one zero distance that i would use 194 00:07:34.920 --> 00:07:37.980 across ever eddie handgun platform whether it 195 00:07:37.980 --> 00:07:41.220 was for personal protection or competition shooting 196 00:07:41.580 --> 00:07:43.590 i would go with fifty feet 197 00:07:45.540 --> 00:07:46.860 and i would go with fifty feet 198 00:07:46.860 --> 00:07:48.300 for a number of reasons fifty feet 199 00:07:48.300 --> 00:07:52.740 is like fourteen yards ish i think 200 00:07:53.010 --> 00:07:54.120 or no is no it's more than 201 00:07:54.120 --> 00:07:54.570 fifteen years 202 00:07:56.310 --> 00:07:58.020 yeah so it's like that 203 00:07:59.258 --> 00:08:01.530 seven teams yeah so it's like sixteen 204 00:08:01.530 --> 00:08:03.360 seventeen years so it's more than fifteen 205 00:08:03.360 --> 00:08:04.920 yards which fifteen years is what we 206 00:08:04.920 --> 00:08:07.230 sort of consider an intermediate range pistol 207 00:08:07.230 --> 00:08:10.770 shot so at fifteen yards you have 208 00:08:10.860 --> 00:08:12.060 so at fifty feet you have enough 209 00:08:12.090 --> 00:08:14.760 distance in your zero that you're not 210 00:08:14.760 --> 00:08:16.200 going to have to deal with considerable 211 00:08:16.200 --> 00:08:18.450 amounts of offset at close range 212 00:08:18.690 --> 00:08:21.864 vs are you that your you have 213 00:08:21.864 --> 00:08:23.580 enough distance in your zero that you're 214 00:08:23.580 --> 00:08:24.780 not going to have to deal with 215 00:08:24.810 --> 00:08:28.740 a significant poi impact or a poi 216 00:08:28.740 --> 00:08:31.410 change at twenty five to thirty five 217 00:08:31.410 --> 00:08:32.940 and even to fifty yards if you're 218 00:08:32.940 --> 00:08:35.730 shooting a nine mil and it's also 219 00:08:35.730 --> 00:08:37.047 close enough that you're not going to 220 00:08:37.047 --> 00:08:38.610 have a significant poi shift 221 00:08:38.640 --> 00:08:40.230 at like seven and five yards right 222 00:08:40.440 --> 00:08:42.360 so it's kind of a nice in 223 00:08:42.360 --> 00:08:44.400 the middle number and the reason why 224 00:08:44.400 --> 00:08:46.410 i went with fifty feet is because 225 00:08:46.410 --> 00:08:48.330 it is an extremely common distance for 226 00:08:48.344 --> 00:08:50.460 most indoor ranges to half right like 227 00:08:50.550 --> 00:08:53.280 it's a very accessible distance and even 228 00:08:53.280 --> 00:08:55.410 if the indoor range does seventy five 229 00:08:55.410 --> 00:08:57.270 which a lot of them do but 230 00:08:57.450 --> 00:08:58.740 there are plenty that stop at 231 00:08:58.800 --> 00:09:00.060 fifty but even if you go to 232 00:09:00.060 --> 00:09:01.980 seventy five for a lot of people 233 00:09:01.980 --> 00:09:03.600 seventy five feet or twenty five yards 234 00:09:03.810 --> 00:09:05.610 that is a hard shot to work 235 00:09:05.670 --> 00:09:08.070 they aren't used to it yeah but 236 00:09:08.520 --> 00:09:10.440 that that's a longer way and becomes 237 00:09:10.440 --> 00:09:12.480 more intimidating people get inside their heads 238 00:09:12.780 --> 00:09:15.060 therefore they're not getting a good confirmation 239 00:09:15.060 --> 00:09:16.740 if they're trying at twenty five it's 240 00:09:16.740 --> 00:09:18.390 just a little beyond them they're fighting 241 00:09:18.390 --> 00:09:18.939 against them 242 00:09:18.960 --> 00:09:21.210 selves so that is an aspect to 243 00:09:21.210 --> 00:09:25.110 it too now that being said i 244 00:09:25.110 --> 00:09:28.110 have also zeroed defensive handguns at ten 245 00:09:28.110 --> 00:09:31.410 yards i have zero defensive handguns at 246 00:09:31.410 --> 00:09:33.240 or zero hunting handguns at twenty five 247 00:09:33.240 --> 00:09:38.070 yards and i zeroed some i zero 248 00:09:38.070 --> 00:09:39.120 some pccs it fifth 249 00:09:39.120 --> 00:09:40.860 eighty yards as your other pcc is 250 00:09:40.860 --> 00:09:42.360 at twenty five yards depending on the 251 00:09:42.390 --> 00:09:46.200 optic and the projectile so it's really 252 00:09:46.200 --> 00:09:47.460 just a 253 00:09:49.800 --> 00:09:51.510 i to me there is no hard 254 00:09:51.510 --> 00:09:53.220 and fast rule of right it's dictated 255 00:09:53.220 --> 00:09:56.880 by use case optic and projectile like 256 00:09:56.880 --> 00:09:59.670 for example go ahead yet you're going 257 00:09:59.700 --> 00:10:02.310 going going by what i've done i 258 00:10:02.310 --> 00:10:04.170 used to be firmly in the ten 259 00:10:04.170 --> 00:10:07.740 yard category ah i'm no i'm no 260 00:10:07.740 --> 00:10:08.640 longer tenure my 261 00:10:09.185 --> 00:10:11.405 zero now so if i need if 262 00:10:11.405 --> 00:10:12.365 i need to throw something on a 263 00:10:12.365 --> 00:10:14.461 pistol real quick and just be done 264 00:10:14.465 --> 00:10:16.715 tunnel tunnel do a tunnel define but 265 00:10:16.715 --> 00:10:19.085 i also accept the fact that my 266 00:10:19.145 --> 00:10:21.273 fifteen twenty twenty five yard shots are 267 00:10:21.275 --> 00:10:23.345 plenty high then cause i'm going to 268 00:10:23.345 --> 00:10:24.995 over arc my optic whether it's on 269 00:10:24.995 --> 00:10:27.005 a handgun or especially if it's on 270 00:10:27.005 --> 00:10:29.285 a pcc because of your 271 00:10:29.285 --> 00:10:30.755 optical offset you're going to get high 272 00:10:30.755 --> 00:10:33.485 shots that's why i've settled on for 273 00:10:33.485 --> 00:10:35.675 me liking the twenty five yard zero 274 00:10:35.705 --> 00:10:37.325 i really liked the twenty five yard 275 00:10:37.325 --> 00:10:39.725 zero for both a handgun defensive handgun 276 00:10:40.175 --> 00:10:44.465 hunting handgun and pcc's and because most 277 00:10:44.675 --> 00:10:48.185 percentage nine millimeter last year for a 278 00:10:48.185 --> 00:10:49.445 minute cause i do think 279 00:10:49.505 --> 00:10:51.965 did the tenured zero is deeply misunderstood 280 00:10:51.965 --> 00:10:53.585 as well because i use it quite 281 00:10:53.585 --> 00:10:55.205 commonly and i don't 282 00:10:56.405 --> 00:10:58.085 i don't necessarily think of it as 283 00:10:58.085 --> 00:11:01.493 a zero so much because so if 284 00:11:01.493 --> 00:11:03.635 if you got chitlins is a big 285 00:11:03.635 --> 00:11:05.285 proponent of the tenured zero i've done 286 00:11:05.285 --> 00:11:06.365 it as well i have a whole 287 00:11:06.365 --> 00:11:09.245 video about it on another channel and 288 00:11:09.965 --> 00:11:11.315 the thing with the tenure zero though 289 00:11:11.645 --> 00:11:14.045 is to do it correctly first off 290 00:11:14.105 --> 00:11:15.185 you have to be able to shoot 291 00:11:15.185 --> 00:11:16.565 three shots and basically go 292 00:11:16.625 --> 00:11:18.065 through the same bullet hole ten yards 293 00:11:18.065 --> 00:11:20.075 yeah they need to touch it they 294 00:11:20.075 --> 00:11:22.715 need to actually be touching and if 295 00:11:22.715 --> 00:11:25.235 you can't do that then you are 296 00:11:25.235 --> 00:11:27.425 better off bagging the gun and shooting 297 00:11:27.425 --> 00:11:29.105 a fifteen or twenty or twenty five 298 00:11:29.105 --> 00:11:29.795 yard zero 299 00:11:30.991 --> 00:11:33.575 do now if you can do that 300 00:11:33.605 --> 00:11:34.925 and you can shoot three shots that 301 00:11:34.925 --> 00:11:36.905 are touching at ten yards and you 302 00:11:36.905 --> 00:11:38.525 can dial the gun effectively and all 303 00:11:38.525 --> 00:11:40.295 of that then you still need to 304 00:11:40.295 --> 00:11:42.335 shoot a confirmation group at twenty five 305 00:11:42.335 --> 00:11:45.605 yards because me not knowing what bullet 306 00:11:45.605 --> 00:11:47.195 is going to do once it goes 307 00:11:47.195 --> 00:11:50.225 further than ten yards is bad and 308 00:11:50.345 --> 00:11:51.125 i have seen pete 309 00:11:51.125 --> 00:11:52.865 will shu what they thought were acceptable 310 00:11:52.865 --> 00:11:54.875 tenure zero groups where none of the 311 00:11:54.875 --> 00:11:56.285 bullets were touching and they're like oh 312 00:11:56.285 --> 00:11:57.785 that looks pretty centre to me and 313 00:11:57.785 --> 00:11:58.655 then they go out to shoot a 314 00:11:58.655 --> 00:12:00.094 ba at twenty five yards and they're 315 00:12:00.094 --> 00:12:02.255 shooting sixes and sevens i'm like you're 316 00:12:02.255 --> 00:12:03.995 shooting sixes and sevens because your guns 317 00:12:03.995 --> 00:12:07.145 aren't actually zeroed you're so you did 318 00:12:07.145 --> 00:12:09.635 not complete the process which by the 319 00:12:09.635 --> 00:12:11.255 site brings us back to the 320 00:12:11.285 --> 00:12:14.735 rifles your own little quick because that's 321 00:12:14.885 --> 00:12:16.745 that's one of the biggest problems with 322 00:12:16.745 --> 00:12:18.335 the monetary zero in the twenty five 323 00:12:18.335 --> 00:12:20.045 yard zero in general is they just 324 00:12:20.045 --> 00:12:21.725 stop it there even if they do 325 00:12:21.725 --> 00:12:24.155 the proper offset that you're supposed to 326 00:12:24.155 --> 00:12:25.985 do in the military to get the 327 00:12:26.075 --> 00:12:28.475 theoretical twenty two to three hundred they 328 00:12:28.475 --> 00:12:31.296 never complete the confirmation process and husband 329 00:12:31.296 --> 00:12:31.445 never 330 00:12:31.514 --> 00:12:34.565 complete the confirmation process you get a 331 00:12:34.565 --> 00:12:36.575 ton of misses at one hundred and 332 00:12:36.575 --> 00:12:37.535 fifty and two hundred 333 00:12:40.685 --> 00:12:41.075 get him 334 00:12:42.365 --> 00:12:44.285 example i just actually zeroed my work 335 00:12:44.285 --> 00:12:47.645 rifle today at twenty five yards and 336 00:12:47.705 --> 00:12:50.045 die shot two really good russia two 337 00:12:50.045 --> 00:12:52.175 really good final groups after you know 338 00:12:52.175 --> 00:12:53.435 dealing with my sights and all of 339 00:12:53.435 --> 00:12:55.265 them and i am still not one 340 00:12:55.265 --> 00:12:56.735 hundred per cent confident in my ability 341 00:12:56.735 --> 00:12:58.025 to make it three hundred yard engagement 342 00:12:58.355 --> 00:13:02.225 because the group is pretty good 343 00:13:02.405 --> 00:13:05.015 but there's also and also you know 344 00:13:05.015 --> 00:13:07.535 i'm shooting a military issue and four 345 00:13:07.535 --> 00:13:10.955 with frangible ammunition like a this is 346 00:13:10.955 --> 00:13:13.055 not a suburban gun you know issues 347 00:13:13.115 --> 00:13:16.805 and scrap angels especially while the number 348 00:13:16.805 --> 00:13:18.725 of wires but i got a frangible 349 00:13:18.725 --> 00:13:20.225 the last time i was shooting it 350 00:13:21.125 --> 00:13:22.535 thunder ranch actually i was shooting 351 00:13:22.595 --> 00:13:24.425 up there with cloth i have been 352 00:13:24.425 --> 00:13:27.575 around for need frangible ammo and for 353 00:13:27.575 --> 00:13:30.425 most of the oranges and of yuck 354 00:13:30.575 --> 00:13:33.125 that stuff overthrow flyers like a map 355 00:13:34.325 --> 00:13:35.908 yeah some are just be like i 356 00:13:35.913 --> 00:13:37.265 don't want to go where i said 357 00:13:37.265 --> 00:13:39.424 i wanted to go so brings up 358 00:13:39.424 --> 00:13:41.495 the petals of that direction i'm going 359 00:13:41.495 --> 00:13:43.685 to go in the area but not 360 00:13:43.685 --> 00:13:48.005 laying really really that's perfectly fine for 361 00:13:48.005 --> 00:13:51.545 regular steel inside of ready or bringing 362 00:13:51.815 --> 00:13:53.465 even ringing steel out to two hundred 363 00:13:53.465 --> 00:13:54.485 three hundred if you've got 364 00:13:54.515 --> 00:13:57.455 you know big plates perfectly fine but 365 00:13:57.455 --> 00:13:59.735 if you're looking for effective growth and 366 00:13:59.765 --> 00:14:01.505 to have confidence that the rivals going 367 00:14:01.505 --> 00:14:04.295 to the inevitable won the ama exactly 368 00:14:04.295 --> 00:14:05.375 where you tell it to as long 369 00:14:05.375 --> 00:14:06.785 as you are behind it 370 00:14:08.715 --> 00:14:09.365 not touch 371 00:14:10.295 --> 00:14:11.795 this is another problem with a shoot 372 00:14:11.795 --> 00:14:16.001 with zero pistols and the pistols are 373 00:14:16.001 --> 00:14:18.365 hard to shoot guys pistols hard to 374 00:14:18.365 --> 00:14:20.465 shoot good and so a lot of 375 00:14:20.549 --> 00:14:23.975 times your house or ball bearings supporting 376 00:14:24.215 --> 00:14:26.285 muscles and tendons and that's it fair 377 00:14:26.285 --> 00:14:28.775 to the support structure yet there's no 378 00:14:28.805 --> 00:14:30.245 so i so 379 00:14:30.275 --> 00:14:31.595 i'm a big i will say this 380 00:14:31.685 --> 00:14:33.905 i am a big believer in if 381 00:14:33.905 --> 00:14:35.285 you are going to zero your pistol 382 00:14:35.285 --> 00:14:37.835 at twenty five yards you should bag 383 00:14:37.835 --> 00:14:39.755 it or have some kind of rest 384 00:14:39.755 --> 00:14:40.385 or santa claus 385 00:14:42.095 --> 00:14:43.235 yeah some kind of some kind of 386 00:14:43.235 --> 00:14:47.285 mechanical assist and then furthermore when you're 387 00:14:47.285 --> 00:14:49.355 doing that twenty five yard pistol zero 388 00:14:49.505 --> 00:14:51.625 what you in my opinion you should 389 00:14:53.255 --> 00:14:55.715 yeah try to set up your mechanical 390 00:14:55.715 --> 00:14:58.745 rest so that it mimics the way 391 00:14:58.745 --> 00:15:00.995 you would address the gun in the 392 00:15:00.995 --> 00:15:02.765 real world so like if you're listening 393 00:15:02.765 --> 00:15:04.235 to the audio version of this i'm 394 00:15:04.235 --> 00:15:06.575 like craned out leaning down now like 395 00:15:06.575 --> 00:15:09.035 i'm leaning over a bag if you're 396 00:15:09.035 --> 00:15:12.125 zeroing your pistol like that you can 397 00:15:12.185 --> 00:15:12.965 still get a good seat 398 00:15:12.965 --> 00:15:14.075 oh i know because i've done it 399 00:15:14.225 --> 00:15:15.635 but it's not as optimal as if 400 00:15:15.635 --> 00:15:17.015 you like set up a rest where 401 00:15:17.015 --> 00:15:19.205 you're seated in an upright position almost 402 00:15:19.205 --> 00:15:20.825 like you're driving a car so that 403 00:15:20.825 --> 00:15:22.505 your head and neck are neutral which 404 00:15:22.505 --> 00:15:24.215 is how you'd be shooting that gun 405 00:15:24.215 --> 00:15:26.495 anyway because you wanted to zero in 406 00:15:26.495 --> 00:15:28.803 a position a pistol especially you and 407 00:15:28.805 --> 00:15:30.305 a zero it in the position that 408 00:15:30.305 --> 00:15:31.805 you're most likely to see the sights 409 00:15:31.805 --> 00:15:33.125 through edges 410 00:15:33.245 --> 00:15:34.740 i have found over the years that 411 00:15:34.805 --> 00:15:37.205 produces better results then again trying to 412 00:15:37.205 --> 00:15:39.035 crane my head or like i end 413 00:15:39.035 --> 00:15:39.995 up looking through the sites in a 414 00:15:39.995 --> 00:15:42.125 weird direction or something like that and 415 00:15:42.125 --> 00:15:43.655 that applies whether or not you're shooting 416 00:15:43.655 --> 00:15:46.025 red dot or iron sighted pistols because 417 00:15:46.025 --> 00:15:48.605 guess what guys iron sighted pistol some 418 00:15:48.605 --> 00:15:49.865 of them have adjustable sights you need 419 00:15:49.865 --> 00:15:52.330 is your them shits to the eye 420 00:15:52.330 --> 00:15:53.285 have that that match 421 00:15:53.285 --> 00:15:54.905 matters and where you are addressing how 422 00:15:54.905 --> 00:15:56.765 your brain picks up at sight picture 423 00:15:56.765 --> 00:15:58.565 does matter so if you change it 424 00:15:58.625 --> 00:16:02.315 there will be deviation that's satellite works 425 00:16:02.315 --> 00:16:02.645 guys 426 00:16:04.085 --> 00:16:05.075 we're doing this podcast 427 00:16:06.605 --> 00:16:08.825 if podcasts existed twenty five years ago 428 00:16:08.975 --> 00:16:11.585 and we were doing one about zeroing 429 00:16:11.585 --> 00:16:13.265 pistols we would be talking about six 430 00:16:13.265 --> 00:16:15.185 o'clock hold vs center mass hold for 431 00:16:15.185 --> 00:16:17.705 your zero and you know what was 432 00:16:17.705 --> 00:16:19.387 appropriate and how to set that up 433 00:16:19.387 --> 00:16:20.675 and if you don't know what a 434 00:16:20.675 --> 00:16:22.175 six o'clock hold his or her center 435 00:16:22.175 --> 00:16:24.065 mass hold is a google that because 436 00:16:24.065 --> 00:16:25.055 i'm not gonna explain it to you 437 00:16:25.085 --> 00:16:26.345 but it's it was it 438 00:16:26.465 --> 00:16:29.005 it's relevant and i what is your 439 00:16:29.015 --> 00:16:31.385 for yeah whether your particular brand of 440 00:16:31.385 --> 00:16:32.822 gun had a six o'clock or a 441 00:16:32.822 --> 00:16:34.835 center mass old and everything 442 00:16:35.660 --> 00:16:37.535 the sig came up with the drive 443 00:16:37.535 --> 00:16:39.425 the dot with a combat hold where 444 00:16:39.425 --> 00:16:41.105 you had to drive the dots and 445 00:16:41.855 --> 00:16:42.245 gross 446 00:16:43.385 --> 00:16:44.945 i actually still use a six o'clock 447 00:16:44.945 --> 00:16:46.775 hold for my bianche cup gun so 448 00:16:46.775 --> 00:16:49.775 i can stick the black center of 449 00:16:49.775 --> 00:16:51.815 the x ring right on top of 450 00:16:51.815 --> 00:16:53.225 the tip of the front sight at 451 00:16:53.225 --> 00:16:54.965 twenty five yards and then i can 452 00:16:54.965 --> 00:16:56.255 just be like oh look this is 453 00:16:56.255 --> 00:16:57.987 so pretty it's like a lollipop and 454 00:16:58.025 --> 00:17:00.425 the bullet goes so i will explain 455 00:17:00.425 --> 00:17:01.685 so six o'clock hold means that you 456 00:17:01.685 --> 00:17:03.065 put the tip of the front se 457 00:17:03.305 --> 00:17:04.835 at the bottom of the thing that 458 00:17:04.835 --> 00:17:06.665 you want to shoot and then the 459 00:17:06.665 --> 00:17:08.525 bullet goes in organised sitting on top 460 00:17:08.915 --> 00:17:10.385 of the thing so like in the 461 00:17:10.385 --> 00:17:12.064 example of a being hiccup x ring 462 00:17:12.064 --> 00:17:13.775 it is a four inch circle so 463 00:17:13.775 --> 00:17:14.885 i put that on online at my 464 00:17:14.885 --> 00:17:16.805 sides equal height equal light with the 465 00:17:16.805 --> 00:17:18.125 tip of the front sight touching the 466 00:17:18.125 --> 00:17:20.315 bottom of the circle and then the 467 00:17:20.315 --> 00:17:22.535 bullet i actually want it to impact 468 00:17:22.565 --> 00:17:23.285 two inches 469 00:17:23.315 --> 00:17:26.165 high over the tip of the front 470 00:17:26.165 --> 00:17:29.075 sight into the middle of that target 471 00:17:29.075 --> 00:17:31.565 and people who have never shot bulls-eye 472 00:17:31.565 --> 00:17:32.525 or anything like that right now are 473 00:17:32.525 --> 00:17:34.355 like that he said why would you 474 00:17:34.355 --> 00:17:35.315 not want to have point of aim 475 00:17:35.315 --> 00:17:37.235 point of impact cause i'm trying to 476 00:17:37.235 --> 00:17:40.595 win again that's why one and two 477 00:17:40.595 --> 00:17:43.445 if you're if you're hunting for example 478 00:17:43.445 --> 00:17:46.325 will the further away that the animal 479 00:17:46.325 --> 00:17:48.605 you're trying to shoot is the bigger 480 00:17:48.605 --> 00:17:50.495 that front sight blade do be 481 00:17:51.605 --> 00:17:53.855 six o'clock orbit but you effectively know 482 00:17:54.245 --> 00:17:55.715 you can get a full sight picture 483 00:17:55.715 --> 00:17:57.935 on the animal vs having to cut 484 00:17:57.935 --> 00:17:59.585 it in half and lose a lot 485 00:17:59.585 --> 00:18:00.845 of what you're trying to shoot at 486 00:18:01.175 --> 00:18:03.545 whether that's for hunting and the same 487 00:18:03.545 --> 00:18:06.965 thing applies to do to open targets 488 00:18:07.445 --> 00:18:09.875 and rifles too you can use a 489 00:18:09.875 --> 00:18:11.555 six o'clock hold and get a full 490 00:18:11.555 --> 00:18:11.765 site 491 00:18:11.855 --> 00:18:13.475 picture on whatever it is you're shooting 492 00:18:13.505 --> 00:18:15.575 especially if you have range adjustable rifle 493 00:18:15.575 --> 00:18:18.065 sights that is very easy to do 494 00:18:19.685 --> 00:18:21.755 but if you go and you have 495 00:18:21.755 --> 00:18:23.405 to cut it in half there gets 496 00:18:23.405 --> 00:18:24.695 to be a point especially in like 497 00:18:24.695 --> 00:18:27.395 m sixteen sites where your front sight 498 00:18:27.395 --> 00:18:29.225 is much larger than the finger pointing 499 00:18:29.225 --> 00:18:31.595 at yeah i would not consider a 500 00:18:31.595 --> 00:18:31.835 six 501 00:18:32.105 --> 00:18:34.805 hold appropriate for you know u s 502 00:18:34.805 --> 00:18:36.365 p s a or something like that 503 00:18:36.365 --> 00:18:39.545 but like i went to shoot an 504 00:18:39.545 --> 00:18:41.525 air force e i c match with 505 00:18:41.525 --> 00:18:45.065 iron sights and i is reserved my 506 00:18:45.065 --> 00:18:47.015 rifle for six o'clock hold so i 507 00:18:47.015 --> 00:18:49.115 could put it on the bottom of 508 00:18:49.115 --> 00:18:51.635 those black targets and have have the 509 00:18:51.635 --> 00:18:52.085 whole 510 00:18:52.085 --> 00:18:54.035 full target visible and have a really 511 00:18:54.035 --> 00:18:57.185 good target to front sight relationship that 512 00:18:57.185 --> 00:18:59.135 was visible so there are reasons why 513 00:18:59.135 --> 00:19:00.245 you would want to do something like 514 00:19:00.245 --> 00:19:02.195 that same as why you would maybe 515 00:19:02.195 --> 00:19:03.725 one zero a pistol at twenty five 516 00:19:03.725 --> 00:19:06.875 yards versus thirty yards versus whatever so 517 00:19:07.175 --> 00:19:09.815 talking about pistols era bringing back the 518 00:19:09.875 --> 00:19:12.245 libel just so i basically 519 00:19:12.245 --> 00:19:16.025 fee i pay at this point i 520 00:19:16.175 --> 00:19:17.705 i zero every 521 00:19:18.875 --> 00:19:21.845 any competition pistol or personal protection pistol 522 00:19:21.845 --> 00:19:23.615 i will zero at or at or 523 00:19:23.615 --> 00:19:25.595 around fifty feet that's kind of what 524 00:19:25.595 --> 00:19:27.365 i've settled on as my distance for 525 00:19:27.365 --> 00:19:30.365 that the other reason that fifty feet 526 00:19:30.365 --> 00:19:32.765 is really easy for me is i 527 00:19:32.765 --> 00:19:34.775 have is if i'm on an outdoor 528 00:19:34.775 --> 00:19:37.895 range and i don't have a rangefinder 529 00:19:37.895 --> 00:19:38.885 or something like that way 530 00:19:38.885 --> 00:19:40.805 with that with me i know for 531 00:19:40.805 --> 00:19:42.725 a fact that my stride is two 532 00:19:42.725 --> 00:19:44.045 and a half feet long and i 533 00:19:44.045 --> 00:19:46.175 know this measure it on repeated occasions 534 00:19:47.195 --> 00:19:48.125 so i know for a fact that 535 00:19:48.125 --> 00:19:49.055 australia is two and a half he 536 00:19:49.385 --> 00:19:52.505 retired from the military guys yet which 537 00:19:52.505 --> 00:19:54.365 means that if i can count to 538 00:19:54.365 --> 00:19:56.585 twenty then i know if i take 539 00:19:56.585 --> 00:19:59.045 twenty steps i have fifty fee and 540 00:19:59.045 --> 00:20:01.355 i'm good i have measured my thing 541 00:20:01.565 --> 00:20:04.235 i'm good to go so there's a 542 00:20:04.235 --> 00:20:06.605 benefit to that in terms of a 543 00:20:06.605 --> 00:20:09.125 distance and again it's just easy to 544 00:20:09.125 --> 00:20:11.375 manage with pistols and stuff like that 545 00:20:11.375 --> 00:20:14.075 now my raging hunter my hunting handgun 546 00:20:14.555 --> 00:20:18.095 i anticipated that i would have shots 547 00:20:18.305 --> 00:20:19.205 at longer 548 00:20:19.625 --> 00:20:21.635 it says although not quite the distances 549 00:20:21.635 --> 00:20:22.895 that i ended up having shots at 550 00:20:23.255 --> 00:20:26.069 an easier did it i zeroed in 551 00:20:26.069 --> 00:20:29.135 at twenty five yards then when i 552 00:20:29.135 --> 00:20:31.775 had the opportunity i can't i confirmed 553 00:20:31.775 --> 00:20:34.385 my zero at fifty yards and that's 554 00:20:34.445 --> 00:20:35.765 one of the things that i believe 555 00:20:35.765 --> 00:20:38.585 is really important is whatever distance i 556 00:20:38.585 --> 00:20:39.635 zero my 557 00:20:39.785 --> 00:20:42.545 my my pistol at i want to 558 00:20:42.545 --> 00:20:45.245 confirm it at what i would sort 559 00:20:45.245 --> 00:20:47.585 of consider the next step right so 560 00:20:47.585 --> 00:20:50.435 like i will zero defensive and competition 561 00:20:50.435 --> 00:20:53.255 handguns at fifty feet and then i 562 00:20:53.255 --> 00:20:56.165 will shoot and aisi steel plate at 563 00:20:56.165 --> 00:20:58.985 twenty five yards right and if i'm 564 00:20:58.985 --> 00:20:59.945 getting if i'm you know 565 00:20:59.975 --> 00:21:01.265 if i go five for five great 566 00:21:01.305 --> 00:21:02.975 i'm good to go i have confirmed 567 00:21:02.975 --> 00:21:05.982 my zero we're all set and with 568 00:21:05.982 --> 00:21:07.895 the raging hunter he was twenty five 569 00:21:07.895 --> 00:21:10.715 and then confirmed and fifty with a 570 00:21:10.805 --> 00:21:12.575 pccs and this is where it gets 571 00:21:12.575 --> 00:21:14.255 a little low spooky ray like some 572 00:21:14.465 --> 00:21:15.965 most of them i zero at twenty 573 00:21:15.965 --> 00:21:17.645 five and then just confirm at fifty 574 00:21:17.945 --> 00:21:20.105 i have two that have 575 00:21:20.110 --> 00:21:23.135 have the a cog that is that 576 00:21:23.135 --> 00:21:25.025 has a bdc for one hundred and 577 00:21:25.025 --> 00:21:27.455 fifteen grain nine millimeter in it and 578 00:21:27.455 --> 00:21:29.165 those say in the manual to zero 579 00:21:29.165 --> 00:21:30.485 i'm at fifty so i just did 580 00:21:30.935 --> 00:21:33.033 what the manual said and zeroed it 581 00:21:33.033 --> 00:21:36.515 at fifty and those i will say 582 00:21:36.545 --> 00:21:38.165 those guys haven't done the math for 583 00:21:38.165 --> 00:21:40.178 us but it's not close i haven't 584 00:21:40.178 --> 00:21:40.265 sure 585 00:21:40.265 --> 00:21:43.775 shot confirmation groups beyond fifty with mostly 586 00:21:43.775 --> 00:21:45.215 because for whatever reason at my local 587 00:21:45.215 --> 00:21:46.325 club they took out the one hundred 588 00:21:46.325 --> 00:21:47.795 yard steel plate and i was like 589 00:21:47.795 --> 00:21:49.925 ugh but but i wanted to shoot 590 00:21:49.925 --> 00:21:52.745 it was a wonderful i've yeah i've 591 00:21:52.745 --> 00:21:55.865 taken my mp five out to two 592 00:21:55.865 --> 00:21:57.875 hundred yards with a twenty five yard 593 00:21:57.875 --> 00:21:59.975 zero is possible to do ghosts 594 00:22:01.145 --> 00:22:02.825 le groupe du be big at that 595 00:22:02.825 --> 00:22:04.835 the that size so if you're if 596 00:22:04.835 --> 00:22:06.245 you have like a three foot plate 597 00:22:06.245 --> 00:22:07.655 you can get some solid hits on 598 00:22:07.655 --> 00:22:09.125 it all but if you're shooting like 599 00:22:09.125 --> 00:22:10.774 an eight zone steel it's going to 600 00:22:10.774 --> 00:22:12.485 be very hit and miss and it 601 00:22:12.485 --> 00:22:14.465 doesn't matter how big your shop processes 602 00:22:14.675 --> 00:22:17.255 benign is going to drift there's a 603 00:22:17.255 --> 00:22:19.745 video of me shooting an ac steal 604 00:22:19.775 --> 00:22:20.585 at one hundred yd 605 00:22:20.585 --> 00:22:22.355 cards with a thirty two magnum with 606 00:22:22.355 --> 00:22:26.225 a thirty magnum ruger lcr ah so 607 00:22:26.645 --> 00:22:29.225 it is definitely possible even with that 608 00:22:29.225 --> 00:22:30.755 gun doesn't even have adjustable sights it 609 00:22:30.755 --> 00:22:32.315 was just a point of aimpoint i 610 00:22:32.315 --> 00:22:33.455 lucked out he was point of aim 611 00:22:33.455 --> 00:22:35.435 point of impact at fifteen yards from 612 00:22:35.435 --> 00:22:38.015 like that's good to go so ooh 613 00:22:38.105 --> 00:22:38.975 this is the last thing we'll talk 614 00:22:38.975 --> 00:22:40.745 about what why 615 00:22:40.745 --> 00:22:42.725 what do you do if you have 616 00:22:42.725 --> 00:22:44.555 a gun that doesn't have adjustable sights 617 00:22:45.215 --> 00:22:45.665 well 618 00:22:48.005 --> 00:22:49.865 if it's got an adjustable rear sight 619 00:22:50.825 --> 00:22:53.435 so some guns don't have adjustable sights 620 00:22:53.435 --> 00:22:55.325 but they have interchangeable sights glocks come 621 00:22:55.325 --> 00:22:57.005 to mind right the tourist g three 622 00:22:57.005 --> 00:22:57.965 series comes to mind 623 00:22:59.075 --> 00:23:01.745 if you are dead set on adjusting 624 00:23:01.745 --> 00:23:04.235 your point of impact to match whatever 625 00:23:04.235 --> 00:23:05.975 round it is that you're using like 626 00:23:05.975 --> 00:23:08.015 let's say you are you know dick 627 00:23:08.015 --> 00:23:09.455 hard for one hundred and forty seven 628 00:23:09.455 --> 00:23:11.705 grain ages teases your carry load but 629 00:23:11.705 --> 00:23:13.085 they don't hit where you're aiming the 630 00:23:13.085 --> 00:23:13.535 gun 631 00:23:14.825 --> 00:23:16.895 change the sites you know you can 632 00:23:17.045 --> 00:23:19.265 change your front sight to make the 633 00:23:19.265 --> 00:23:20.855 route fours if you make it harder 634 00:23:20.915 --> 00:23:21.485 or hit here 635 00:23:23.015 --> 00:23:26.105 front opposite rear say so at all 636 00:23:26.105 --> 00:23:27.725 or front sight yet so if you 637 00:23:27.725 --> 00:23:28.745 want to make the rounds hit lower 638 00:23:28.745 --> 00:23:30.725 you put a taller front sight on 639 00:23:30.725 --> 00:23:31.655 if you wouldn't make him head higher 640 00:23:31.655 --> 00:23:32.945 you put a shorter front sight on 641 00:23:33.365 --> 00:23:35.135 and you can also change the height 642 00:23:35.135 --> 00:23:36.725 of your rear sight to have the 643 00:23:36.725 --> 00:23:40.985 opposite effect cause then the the pneumonia 644 00:23:40.985 --> 00:23:42.335 that i just muttered angles 645 00:23:42.845 --> 00:23:44.045 yeah so the pneumonic that i just 646 00:23:44.045 --> 00:23:46.175 muttered under my breath is front opposite 647 00:23:46.175 --> 00:23:48.275 rear same sir if you make front 648 00:23:48.305 --> 00:23:50.735 taller bullet go down if you make 649 00:23:50.742 --> 00:23:52.715 front shorter bullet go up if you 650 00:23:52.715 --> 00:23:54.965 make rear taller bullet go up if 651 00:23:54.965 --> 00:23:56.405 you make rear shorter a bullet go 652 00:23:56.405 --> 00:23:58.685 down front opposite rear same force 653 00:24:00.005 --> 00:24:01.805 you'd also you know drift them a 654 00:24:01.805 --> 00:24:03.515 lotta times the dovetail but what if 655 00:24:03.515 --> 00:24:04.505 you're gone what if you have an 656 00:24:04.505 --> 00:24:07.895 m nine and a judge is fixed 657 00:24:08.615 --> 00:24:10.505 it's fixed they are or where you're 658 00:24:10.505 --> 00:24:12.485 you're one of the chads out there 659 00:24:12.485 --> 00:24:14.225 who bought a sega p two fifty 660 00:24:14.225 --> 00:24:17.735 and you kept it or you have 661 00:24:17.735 --> 00:24:19.685 been following my antics and you have 662 00:24:19.715 --> 00:24:19.835 a 663 00:24:19.895 --> 00:24:21.575 torres eight fifty six or a tourist 664 00:24:21.592 --> 00:24:23.045 eighty two years some sort of fixed 665 00:24:23.045 --> 00:24:25.325 site revolver what do you do 666 00:24:26.375 --> 00:24:27.093 you 667 00:24:28.445 --> 00:24:30.545 lol you prefer you find a load 668 00:24:30.545 --> 00:24:31.597 that hits to the site and then 669 00:24:31.597 --> 00:24:32.555 announce the one that you shoot 670 00:24:33.635 --> 00:24:36.725 that's kind of that's that's pretty much 671 00:24:36.725 --> 00:24:38.255 what it is what bullet through in 672 00:24:38.585 --> 00:24:42.335 cardiff see where it hit like that 673 00:24:42.335 --> 00:24:43.325 all the guys that start going to 674 00:24:43.385 --> 00:24:46.625 that office at fifty feet know i 675 00:24:46.625 --> 00:24:50.555 have a i've got a a and 676 00:24:50.555 --> 00:24:52.055 as a tourist eighty two and it 677 00:24:52.055 --> 00:24:53.705 shoots under thirty grain 678 00:24:53.705 --> 00:24:56.552 rounds really low at like fifteen yards 679 00:24:56.552 --> 00:24:58.113 so i but at two hundred and 680 00:24:58.113 --> 00:24:59.735 fifty acre around right behind the tip 681 00:24:59.735 --> 00:25:00.755 of the front sight so i'm like 682 00:25:02.045 --> 00:25:04.175 one hundred and fifty eight one fifty 683 00:25:04.175 --> 00:25:05.285 as it is and then it will 684 00:25:05.356 --> 00:25:06.395 shoot all of them and there's a 685 00:25:06.395 --> 00:25:08.045 couple it doesn't like it doesn't like 686 00:25:10.055 --> 00:25:12.365 oh no it's one of the euro 687 00:25:12.365 --> 00:25:15.005 brands i forget which one dollar boy 688 00:25:15.005 --> 00:25:16.475 or something like that no we like 689 00:25:16.475 --> 00:25:17.705 we like s and b as in 690 00:25:17.705 --> 00:25:19.775 be as i said bb it'll take 691 00:25:19.775 --> 00:25:21.155 european law oh by the way if 692 00:25:21.155 --> 00:25:22.625 you guys want it might be fiocchi 693 00:25:22.745 --> 00:25:24.665 and above and if you guys would 694 00:25:24.668 --> 00:25:26.825 like some wicked hot thirty eight just 695 00:25:26.825 --> 00:25:28.595 go buy off the shelf as in 696 00:25:28.595 --> 00:25:29.225 be or 697 00:25:29.225 --> 00:25:31.505 or fiocchi because those bitches are cracking 698 00:25:31.805 --> 00:25:34.025 they are awarded plus p pressures air 699 00:25:34.025 --> 00:25:35.405 but it doesn't say plus p on 700 00:25:35.405 --> 00:25:38.855 the box so and you know as 701 00:25:38.855 --> 00:25:40.445 a fun fact you don't want to 702 00:25:40.445 --> 00:25:41.495 go to the other end if you 703 00:25:41.495 --> 00:25:43.325 want a very tame round go find 704 00:25:43.325 --> 00:25:45.695 pmc ammo pmc tends to be very 705 00:25:45.695 --> 00:25:49.115 very consistent but came out of dirty 706 00:25:49.115 --> 00:25:49.385 as f 707 00:25:49.385 --> 00:25:52.445 fuck it can be splintered or dirty 708 00:25:52.445 --> 00:25:56.105 even to touch if i shoot you 709 00:25:56.105 --> 00:26:00.065 go like go buy a new holder 710 00:26:00.125 --> 00:26:01.955 and you're like me to wash my 711 00:26:01.955 --> 00:26:04.625 hands why are we celebrating right like 712 00:26:04.625 --> 00:26:06.815 i shot a whole class with one 713 00:26:06.815 --> 00:26:08.045 hundred and thirty two green p m 714 00:26:08.045 --> 00:26:09.545 c thirty two three 715 00:26:09.575 --> 00:26:12.005 special f m j and my hands 716 00:26:12.005 --> 00:26:14.375 were just silly grimy by the end 717 00:26:14.375 --> 00:26:16.655 of it they recovered in like whatever 718 00:26:16.715 --> 00:26:19.415 powdery coating they use on their cases 719 00:26:19.445 --> 00:26:23.435 and require guarantee and then the powder 720 00:26:23.435 --> 00:26:26.105 they use is unbelievably foul it's so 721 00:26:26.105 --> 00:26:28.745 dirty like it is and but i 722 00:26:28.745 --> 00:26:29.705 i say all of this 723 00:26:29.735 --> 00:26:33.065 to say ah it's great ego it's 724 00:26:33.065 --> 00:26:35.165 just huge still serves to provoke an 725 00:26:35.165 --> 00:26:38.645 exhaustive duper light their thirty eight special 726 00:26:38.645 --> 00:26:40.085 one hundred and thirty two grain and 727 00:26:40.085 --> 00:26:41.495 their thirty eight special hundred and thirty 728 00:26:41.495 --> 00:26:43.715 two green also has a really really 729 00:26:43.715 --> 00:26:45.905 good bullet shape for like speedy reloads 730 00:26:45.905 --> 00:26:48.395 if you're working as wheeler god so 731 00:26:49.115 --> 00:26:49.865 good bullet shape 732 00:26:49.868 --> 00:26:52.745 have an accurate and soft shooting or 733 00:26:53.015 --> 00:26:54.455 outweigh all of the other things about 734 00:26:54.455 --> 00:26:55.835 pfc not that this is a pmc 735 00:26:55.835 --> 00:26:58.355 commercial but it just it is really 736 00:26:58.355 --> 00:27:00.275 it's really grown ups it's bundled loudly 737 00:27:00.275 --> 00:27:01.925 we got in trouble for a pmc 738 00:27:01.925 --> 00:27:05.045 commercial we got a strikeforce nice it 739 00:27:05.045 --> 00:27:07.985 was years and years old but youtube 740 00:27:07.985 --> 00:27:09.755 came along and i'll say that guy's 741 00:27:09.755 --> 00:27:10.025 ok 742 00:27:10.025 --> 00:27:12.695 caviar the episode here as you're watching 743 00:27:13.085 --> 00:27:16.445 and we may in fact have to 744 00:27:16.445 --> 00:27:19.955 leave this platform at some point because 745 00:27:19.985 --> 00:27:23.195 they know like he the fact that 746 00:27:23.195 --> 00:27:27.245 we have sponsors yeah we have sponsors 747 00:27:27.365 --> 00:27:28.505 we are going to take care of 748 00:27:28.505 --> 00:27:29.435 those sponsors 749 00:27:30.995 --> 00:27:32.675 there just might be a change to 750 00:27:32.675 --> 00:27:34.625 what ends up on youtube versus what 751 00:27:34.625 --> 00:27:36.965 ends up on the native content side 752 00:27:36.965 --> 00:27:41.405 so if you like the show and 753 00:27:41.975 --> 00:27:44.285 obviously subscribe to us on youtube but 754 00:27:44.285 --> 00:27:47.945 also i would strongly encourage you to 755 00:27:48.065 --> 00:27:50.345 follow the audio only version on 756 00:27:50.435 --> 00:27:53.105 itunes and spotify unlike go to those 757 00:27:53.105 --> 00:27:54.567 stores and rate us leave us a 758 00:27:54.572 --> 00:27:56.675 five star rating talk about how much 759 00:27:56.675 --> 00:27:57.815 you enjoy the show that kind of 760 00:27:57.815 --> 00:27:59.345 stuff cause that actually helps boost us 761 00:27:59.405 --> 00:28:03.455 in the interestingly the podcast or algorithms 762 00:28:03.455 --> 00:28:07.325 are not nearly as harsh towards firearms 763 00:28:07.325 --> 00:28:09.155 related topics as everything else so like 764 00:28:09.155 --> 00:28:10.505 if you listen to 765 00:28:11.135 --> 00:28:14.585 sophia's podcast and you know you like 766 00:28:14.585 --> 00:28:16.535 it there you're far more likely to 767 00:28:16.535 --> 00:28:18.965 get our show recommended so again guys 768 00:28:18.965 --> 00:28:20.435 please go ahead to the casinos five-star 769 00:28:20.435 --> 00:28:23.075 ratings share the show talk about how 770 00:28:23.075 --> 00:28:24.605 much you love us and all of 771 00:28:24.605 --> 00:28:28.655 that fun stuff and for just as 772 00:28:28.655 --> 00:28:30.425 like a final bit on moving off 773 00:28:30.763 --> 00:28:32.525 youtube we are not we don't have 774 00:28:32.525 --> 00:28:34.145 any current plans to move off youtube 775 00:28:34.745 --> 00:28:38.915 however these events completely unrelated i just 776 00:28:38.975 --> 00:28:41.675 opened business accounts on rumble for taurus 777 00:28:41.675 --> 00:28:44.105 rossi and heritage manufacturing do i think 778 00:28:44.105 --> 00:28:47.165 rumble is the future no and this 779 00:28:47.165 --> 00:28:48.485 is no shade of rumble they have 780 00:28:48.485 --> 00:28:50.825 like an eighth the viewership 781 00:28:50.885 --> 00:28:53.795 that youtube has but at the same 782 00:28:53.795 --> 00:28:56.705 time if there is a max accident 783 00:28:56.735 --> 00:29:01.355 mass exodus from youtube to somewhere you 784 00:29:01.355 --> 00:29:04.205 know for gun related content rumble seems 785 00:29:04.205 --> 00:29:05.555 like the place that a lot of 786 00:29:05.555 --> 00:29:07.205 that is going to land right now 787 00:29:07.265 --> 00:29:09.275 but who knows maybe somebody alright make 788 00:29:09.275 --> 00:29:10.775 a youtube for guns and 789 00:29:11.244 --> 00:29:12.725 she didn't do that wasn't there a 790 00:29:12.725 --> 00:29:15.035 gun to a while ago era there 791 00:29:15.035 --> 00:29:16.865 have been a couple of attempts at 792 00:29:16.865 --> 00:29:21.065 it none of them have been successful 793 00:29:21.065 --> 00:29:24.635 as of yet mostly we'll just leave 794 00:29:24.635 --> 00:29:26.315 it they haven't been successful as of 795 00:29:26.315 --> 00:29:28.985 yet yeah just leave the recoil i 796 00:29:28.985 --> 00:29:30.905 think the recoil teeth liberalism is probably 797 00:29:30.905 --> 00:29:31.145 the clue 798 00:29:31.190 --> 00:29:33.125 as we got to being successful yep 799 00:29:33.935 --> 00:29:35.705 and there was it was the full 800 00:29:35.705 --> 00:29:38.555 thirty there was recall tv there are 801 00:29:38.555 --> 00:29:41.885 some native video players out there and 802 00:29:41.885 --> 00:29:44.045 we may see because it's not just 803 00:29:44.045 --> 00:29:46.445 going to be firearms content it's going 804 00:29:46.445 --> 00:29:48.545 to be anything that violates the new 805 00:29:49.355 --> 00:29:52.115 terms of service rules when it comes 806 00:29:52.115 --> 00:29:53.945 to sponsorship and taking money 807 00:29:54.035 --> 00:29:56.855 for certain categories of product or service 808 00:29:57.305 --> 00:30:01.865 right so we have include that we 809 00:30:01.865 --> 00:30:03.815 haven't been affected yet but who knows 810 00:30:04.355 --> 00:30:05.825 we'll what we'll do is we'll just 811 00:30:05.825 --> 00:30:10.955 stop paying tourists is is what all 812 00:30:11.015 --> 00:30:12.905 as the verb element of tours usa 813 00:30:13.115 --> 00:30:14.105 all stop pay 814 00:30:14.105 --> 00:30:14.765 paying 815 00:30:15.845 --> 00:30:18.275 gap marketing the sponsor the show and 816 00:30:18.275 --> 00:30:20.375 then i'll just light ten thousand authors 817 00:30:20.375 --> 00:30:22.475 or twenty thousand dollars or whatever on 818 00:30:22.475 --> 00:30:26.045 fire and nail the ashes to youtube 819 00:30:26.735 --> 00:30:29.765 yeah that'll that should work out well 820 00:30:29.765 --> 00:30:31.415 in their favor you think it'll be 821 00:30:31.415 --> 00:30:33.695 great vet as the art guys but 822 00:30:33.695 --> 00:30:35.705 that is it for this episode again 823 00:30:35.705 --> 00:30:35.945 thank you 824 00:30:36.375 --> 00:30:38.505 we're listening make sure that you are 825 00:30:38.505 --> 00:30:40.395 rating us five stars on your favorite 826 00:30:40.395 --> 00:30:44.085 podcast app download like share subscribe give 827 00:30:44.085 --> 00:30:46.605 it to your friends and kidnap a 828 00:30:46.605 --> 00:30:48.885 begotten child and force him to listen 829 00:30:48.885 --> 00:30:50.535 to our entire back catalogue of one 830 00:30:50.535 --> 00:30:53.655 hundred fifty plus episodes which is a 831 00:30:53.655 --> 00:30:56.535 lot of episodes keith we are over 832 00:30:56.535 --> 00:30:58.125 are we are we are we are 833 00:30:58.515 --> 00:31:01.635 sure like that colonel slip and we're 834 00:31:01.635 --> 00:31:03.465 at our three year mark but it's 835 00:31:03.465 --> 00:31:05.715 either this episode or next week's episode 836 00:31:05.715 --> 00:31:07.395 will be the third that will be 837 00:31:07.395 --> 00:31:09.135 the one hundred and fifty sixth the 838 00:31:09.135 --> 00:31:12.255 third year episode so hopefully it's next 839 00:31:12.255 --> 00:31:13.665 week's episode because i didn't think of 840 00:31:13.665 --> 00:31:15.285 anything to do special for this one 841 00:31:15.285 --> 00:31:16.695 but that's it guys we will 842 00:31:16.695 --> 00:31:19.875 be back next week and you'll have 843 00:31:19.905 --> 00:31:21.075 a beautiful day