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what's up guys i am caleb giddings

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then on keep bridge and today's episode

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just a lot of people aren't in

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the united states so like i was

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going to do with either evo

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yeah i was going to say like

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by the people for the people but

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like the brazilian people make a lot

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of our guns but we do have

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united states protection as well people oh

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my god that's a lot i remember

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that that with george bush but anyway

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com and day so as if you

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know if he has listened to last

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week's episode you all know that i

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have discovered the herring

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hidden richardson throwback rifles ah

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made by p s a and what

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i didn't i don't know if we

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necessarily if i necessarily completed it on

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the show but i bought two of

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them because i should not have a

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credit card and should not be left

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alone with adult money and neither neither

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should i write so keith bought a

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storm trooper white dog and i bought

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a coconut have flown

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and a friggin a two clone because

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we're grown and this is what grownups

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do with their money grownups and we're

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we're millennials who are living through the

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fall downfall of society and we will

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we will have little treats to enjoy

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this downfall do you ever wonder like

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if you were a roman citizen living

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through

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the fall of the roman empire if

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you were sort of cognizant that the

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roman empire was falling or if you

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just like

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asian wonder that and i like i

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wonder if i really wonder how parallel

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this is an inn for the record

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guys i don't think like the usa

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is about to fall tomorrow already know

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that they were in that dire of

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straights everybody thinks they're living through the

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worst times that i have ever worse

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timed so on and so forth

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fourth etc

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favorite things go ahead the current like

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the current political cycle is not fun

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one of my favorite things that i

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like to remind people of and this

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is especially and this is something that

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i that i find myself saying a

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lot especially to my more religious friends

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is the apostle paul who like literally

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lived in the same time as jesus

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was one hundred per cent convinced the

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end times were going to happen like

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within his

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lifetime like he was absolutely convinced that

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there was no way of coming back

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in like january he's just always like

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there is no way any of this

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could get any worse clearly the second

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coming is nearly upon as they're absolutely

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going to happen and here we are

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two thousand years later and you know

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we're still taking along

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but all of that aside so in

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the air force wheezy euro hour and

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emperor carpets at twenty five meters and

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this is largely a function of ah

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air force policy on range development over

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the past sixty years where we have

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focused on building twenty five meter enclosed

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indoor range is because they allow us

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to do the greatest the largest amount

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of qualification with the least amount of

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lost classes and stuff like that to

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whether right and i know the army

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by the way also uses a variant

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of the twenty five meter zero

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usually it is supposed to project beyond

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that but it is often done incorrectly

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which leaves you with a true twenty

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five meter zero and that's a problem

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so let's talk about the twenty five

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three hundred zero just to start with

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so what is said the idea behind

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the twenty five three hundred zero is

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that if you're five five sit and

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this and

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the here's a bunch of other shit

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that's important the twenty five three hundred

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zero was designed for x m one

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or m one ninety three ammo out

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of an amd for carby okay so

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it was designed so that if you

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zeroed your m four with m one

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ninety three and five yards it would

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hit dead on and then at like

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one hundred yards it

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be some in some crazy number like

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seven inches i and then it would

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start to drop off at about two

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hundred yards so that it would cross

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back through a true zero at three

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hundred yards and the idea was what

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if your hold on the belt buckle

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of a man sized target from anywhere

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to three hundred yards the fuckin hit

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it like that stupid

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and it is so cheap to shirt

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the twenty five meter zero is stupid

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for carbines and there's a gazillion reasons

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why and and one one of those

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reasons is most people think for twenty

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five yards zero is supposed to be

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point of aim point of impact it

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has no they're supposed to be an

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offset the offset is also deter

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thurmond by how high your optic is

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and if you get that offset a

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little bit wrong at twenty five and

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got a good enough you could be

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six ten twelve inches off in the

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one hundred yd one hundred and fifty

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yard zone where that round is you

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know trying to kiss the sun at

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the top of it's arc

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you are eating that thing artillery style

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very very high with a zero that

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close to the muzzle

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yeah well that's the thing so will

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people donors to the twenty five year

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zero the idea is that again if

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i hold on the belt buckle of

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a man sized target anywhere from twenty

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five to three hundred yards the round

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will land somewhere in the torso area

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right that's terrible that's first off that's

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a fucking terrace

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well marksmanship philosophy right like hey let's

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belly shoot people at seventy five yards

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and then at one hundred yards we're

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going to hit em in the upper

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thoracic cavity and then two hundred yards

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we're going to kind of like shoot

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him in the solar plexus and then

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at three hundred yards you're going to

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shoot him in the gut again i'm

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like or in hear me out us

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army and

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again i i need to be clear

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there with the air force i have

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a lim fact i can't zero at

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true range i've got what i've got

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but what's crazy is if you go

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and you do the math

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and you just zero and you push

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that deer out just by twenty five

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yards and you just do a fifty

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yard zero instead the ballistics makes so

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much more sense you compress the you

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compress the point of aim point of

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impact area down to roughly a sixteen

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inch space right from the muzzle to

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the site above this

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sight back of sight back to the

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line intersecting the muzzle is only like

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eight inches and that's across most calibers

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most rifle platforms like i did so

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as an example and i'm not saying

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that a fifty yard zero is the

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best zero or anything like that but

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like only five five six specifically because

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i've been looking at these numbers that

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i'd prove

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honestly never gave a shit about

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if i zero if you know one

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ninety three out of a sixty these

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curving and fifty meters

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it's like a couple inches high at

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one hundred a couple inches low at

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two hundred and then at three hundred

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it's it's fairly low it's eight to

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ten inches low but

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people have an instinct to hold a

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high when they shoot at things far

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away like people will instinctively hold a

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higher end we this is the eyes

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we understand gravity we understand what gravity

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does we have from our very earliest

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days

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as we're developing permanence in memory anything

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we've tossed or anything we've thrown or

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falling down or and we've interacted with

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gravity or literal whole lives we understand

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it on an instinctual level so if

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want to go further must aim aim

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higher when that's crazy right

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because like if you think about the

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difference so twenty five yard hold me

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you know i'm holding on holding on

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the belt buckle right zero to twenty

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eight twenty five to three hundred okay

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if i change my zero two fifty

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meters or one hundred meters then i'm

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holding on the high center chest at

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any distance that i shoot at and

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then at three hundred

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grid three hundred fifty meters my head

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start dropping into the stomach into embattled

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head into his scoot my point of

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aim but which i am naturally more

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inclined to do anyway it makes sense

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right into like the argument in favor

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of the twenty five yards zero which

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is oh we'll just hold this one

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area

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and you'll get hits on target also

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make sense if you use a fifteen

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yard or a hundred yards here because

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but then instead of holding the belt

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buckle i get to hold the high

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center chest and shoot where i want

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to shoot like that's where i want

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the bullet to hit is there and

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then if it's three hundred yards and

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i forget to compensate or dial or

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i don't have you know an object

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or whatever

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or and i fucking shank went into

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his belly well okay but that was

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the plan for belly shooting him at

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three hundred yards any way with the

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twenty five years now ok vs versa

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you know anybody that had this we

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had this problem several times while i

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was shooting our mc walls they would

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do a point of aim point of

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impact twenty five yard zero which is

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supposed to be it

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it's supposed to be a compensated and

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three hundred it is supposed to be

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one hundred but they're supposed to be

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i believe it's all one point four

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one point five minute of angle offset

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they have your shoe point of aim

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your point of impact supposed to be

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one and a half minutes offset low

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so that you get the arc you're

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also supposed to fire confirmation

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groups at all targets at all distances

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buried by that step gets skip gets

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skipped cause it's time intensive you have

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to deal with people who already can't

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shoot and can't call your bluff you're

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putting it into a limited time block

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so these things get skipped so what

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you end up with is a point

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of aim point of impact twenty five

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which means your rounds with our emmy

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five five a one are insanely high

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at one fifty two hundred and two

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fifty they then if you're the target

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you will miss and that's the only

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thing to the twenty five meter zero

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twenty five zero zero is not appropriate

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for mh five why they won because

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that thing

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the sixteen inch gun at the music

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if missile it is why yang it

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has way more of a muzzle velocity

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on and off it is insane because

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it's optimized for fourteen five so anything

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longer than that is putting a little

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more ass on it i kind of

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want to see i kind of want

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a chronos one exam or not except

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i kind of want to cry

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awesome a wine out of my aches

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at my eight twenty inch guide and

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i want to as well i floated

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the barrel on it and i've shown

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several people in our friend group mom

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it's it's on it's rammer but like

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here here's another funny thing the effective

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range right what's the effective range of

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something the effective range

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the m sixteen a force listed at

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six hundred meters were actually mine two

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thousand and twenty five

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and i was getting i was getting

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hits on a torso size steel

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at one thousand and twenty five for

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your hold over it's just like you're

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like alright i'm fine aim for the

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bottom half of the stein

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got it saved how many i mean

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like i am not doing it with

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an acre guys it's with a mark

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knight eighteen acts like it's it's got

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a good scope on it but you

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run out of elevation in your dial

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you're like well guys we're going to

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go ahead and link the standards and

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then nope i i think it was

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only like nine mills it was well

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within the

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dial range very near i did as

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remained with seventy seven greens your match

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king i was getting just shy of

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twenty nine hundred feet a second i

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had the dial more than that shooting

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three away at one thousand yards i

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was delayed start slower used i was

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i god what was i trying to

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remember when i was on

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and shooting through it a thousand years

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i wouldn't say i was when email

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was

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and that and we'll know shit what

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is the scope run to hang on

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i was out of an eighteen inch

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gun hey guys as you can see

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her eighty hd is in full effect

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okay out of an eighteen inch gun

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i was at thirty six mills and

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i ran out of elevation so i

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was still holding up off the top

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of the guitar again and that was

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when i hundred in c

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sixty five green rant that was with

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one hundred i love that i'm off

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camera right now by the weather

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but i'm gonna get my headphones and

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that one was here it is so

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the stated muzzle velocity on these things

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is

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twenty seven hundred feet per second out

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of probably a twenty inch gun so

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lose you know what two hundred feet

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per second for an eighteen inch or

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and yeah i was i was holding

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in low-earth orbit to land those things

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an error with the three away

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yeah let me say this this isn't

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exactly on cause i don't remember

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i don't remember precisely

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oh do do do

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welcome into a gun day brunch eighty

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hd edition

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which is every edition around that is

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every edition hi guys you're you're not

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turning in to us because you don't

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know where autistic so

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this isn't exactly it but okay no

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it was it was more oh no

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that's minutes

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why is it admitted that that would

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be where you elders 'em away minutes

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is up

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there it is there's mills

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yeah i was i was only i

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was twelve mills was twelve or twelve

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thirty mills and twenty miles is what's

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twelve mills in 'em away roughly three

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and a half three and a half

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oh jeez that's that's nothing like again

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thirty seven m away to lob one

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in there with a three away

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yeah cause and you do forget right

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like five five six is going a

389
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lot asked her out of the gun

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gap especially that it's busy isn't quite

391
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as high so it's gonna bleed some

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velocity but like guys seventy seven grain

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has a pretty good bc it they

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retain some speed

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fifty five is a little short fat

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guy so like firing seven sixty by

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thirty nine that's that stuff hits the

398
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brakes as soon as you get out

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it's a short fat little round so

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it's five when he threw but i

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will say this fifty five holds a

402
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fifty five does out outta five hundred

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yards fifty five is great

404
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and people were like oh i can

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defend grey i'm a good looking first

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ib out of a short barreled like

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i've taken my a little eleven and

408
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a half inch mcs out to five

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hundred yards it eats eminently doable it's

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very very very simple to get it's

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at that if you know what to

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look for and correct for and you

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can read

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the wind a little bit cause what

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fifty five won't fight as wind so

416
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you've got to own up

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you get your ear can i be

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speaking of we can't have adult money

419
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did i tell you guys about how

420
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i got drunk and bought a kestrel

421
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that's the problem

422
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cause i did

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and i have not used the one

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i have but i had just come

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back from the long race class i

426
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quickly ran shot dual tube nv jeez

427
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do you know what i have done

428
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with that i changed my pets around

429
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in the dark it's justified

430
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i'm going to take this casserole cause

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so what i wanna do is i

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want to take this a two and

433
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one is a few i have put

434
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the primary arms five x prism that

435
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i bought to put on something else

436
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by i put it on this because

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it's five x prison and it's really

438
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cool i have to give privilege i

439
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got shot at primary arms

440
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whoever is in their product development team

441
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and is like designing some of the

442
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radicals and stuff that they're putting into

443
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their guns they are doing a great

444
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job the radical in this actually is

445
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fantastic the radical in my three by

446
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eighteen that they call the athena radical

447
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is also fantastic i can't read mills

448
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but it's so fucking good radical

449
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have i got to bring that to

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an extended distance curbing up it it'd

451
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be a bit of a hike for

452
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you it's up in west virginia but

453
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you should come and join them and

454
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but virginia know so but like i'm

455
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looking at this eighty right and you

456
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know i obviously am a big fan

457
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of press

458
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ng obsolete guns into roles that they

459
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probably aren't optimal for revolvers

460
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and then the reason i like that

461
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you and i do this like look

462
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the m sixteen a four was never

463
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supposed to be a precision rifle but

464
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i floated the barrel and i put

465
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up a big scope on it and

466
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i hit at one thousand and twenty

467
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five what is what can a rifle

468
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actually do wouldn't think about this right

469
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so like

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leno let's talk about like that home

471
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defense you know people talk about like

472
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you and we've talked about it on

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this show where we've talked about if

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you actually want to survive a breakdown

475
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of social order you need to have

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a community right and i once was

477
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i was hanging out at my neighbor's

478
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house and i joke that if we

479
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had a breakdown of social

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order that i'd like to use their

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attic because from their attic i have

482
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a clear field of fire in three

483
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hundred yards down the main thoroughfare that

484
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gets into our neighborhood at night if

485
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you put a guy up there with

486
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a with a rifle that can hit

487
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a point target out to five hundred

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yards on command

489
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they can own that street from anything

490
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other than really determined counter fire right

491
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so and then i'm looking at this

492
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a two and i'm like

493
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bullied twenty round mags and the staying

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of five x presume and three hundred

495
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five hundred yards of clear fields of

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fire and that this is your neighborhood

497
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dmr guy lake and it can you

498
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people people don't understand just how much

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space that does in fact command like

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it's it's hard to it's

501
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hard for us to think in terms

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of neighborhood sometimes because square range and

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neighborhood look very very different they really

504
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do that that's a very different perceived

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environment so it's and some people have

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some people have you know have done

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who know how to do arrange guard

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have done range cards on

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their neighborhoods have done to me and

510
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who who've actually measured out some of

511
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the space but most people

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who have a well set up rifle

513
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can command the space they need to

514
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command they can do so very effectively

515
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very easily which isn't was the real

516
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life war

517
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you know the year that that idea

518
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most diet knows that the limb fact

519
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of like if you have a properly

520
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setup bolt action hunting rifle you have

521
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a neighborhood dmr gun like without a

522
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doubt you have a neighborhood dmr then

523
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now you're going to run into issues

524
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with ammo consumption and reload times and

525
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stuff like that but

526
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you know

527
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that break i mean here it will

528
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be they will do some product promotion

529
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right now

530
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the tourist expedition with this three by

531
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eighteen primary arms scope on it this

532
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takes ai pattern max mag links a

533
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ten round a i mag i get

534
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a stack attorneys sitting next to me

535
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with this and again you can own

536
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a street from anything other than really

537
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steer

538
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serious counter fire right like the the

539
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would have you would have to have

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a very well organized very well prepared

541
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and very well trained and trained in

542
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the in the concept of they will

543
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attack into determined effective counter fire that

544
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takes a lot guys

545
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i mean you and i'm a law

546
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which the standard inner infantry tactic for

547
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dealing with a well positioned accurate sniper

548
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mortars indirect fire directly strikes herself or

549
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they shoot rockets at them and if

550
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they don't have that they try to

551
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suppress the sniper with machine guns

552
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and advance on him to get a

553
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position where they can get you know

554
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the and or they've got a counter

555
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sniper right which the really good counter

556
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snipers are also rare so like the

557
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list of things that you would have

558
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to have to dislodge a really well

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positioned ah neighborhood dmr are basically infantry

560
00:20:53.370 --> 00:20:53.910
tactics

561
00:20:54.000 --> 00:20:57.060
and if we're worried about a breakdown

562
00:20:57.060 --> 00:20:58.050
of social order

563
00:20:59.220 --> 00:21:00.120
you know they are going to have

564
00:21:00.120 --> 00:21:02.010
to be willing to assault into your

565
00:21:02.010 --> 00:21:04.650
fire suppressing with heavy volumes of fire

566
00:21:04.650 --> 00:21:06.750
definitely lose a few guys like on

567
00:21:06.750 --> 00:21:08.100
as it is the best idea to

568
00:21:08.100 --> 00:21:10.320
like camp out in your attic but

569
00:21:10.620 --> 00:21:13.200
then if you've got your neighborhood coalition

570
00:21:13.200 --> 00:21:14.640
right and they're trying to suppress you

571
00:21:14.640 --> 00:21:16.470
with heavy volumes of fire and outflank

572
00:21:16.470 --> 00:21:18.420
you the rest of your coalition is

573
00:21:18.420 --> 00:21:19.350
also now shooting

574
00:21:19.410 --> 00:21:22.350
back because they're assaulting into your ear

575
00:21:22.350 --> 00:21:27.150
fortified position so yes that elevated position

576
00:21:27.150 --> 00:21:28.890
with a rifle that can command five

577
00:21:28.890 --> 00:21:32.520
hundred yards is a really good position

578
00:21:32.580 --> 00:21:35.310
because they hand railing to risk and

579
00:21:35.310 --> 00:21:38.160
lose so much in order to mess

580
00:21:38.160 --> 00:21:39.510
with you so i

581
00:21:39.510 --> 00:21:41.550
either you have something that they need

582
00:21:41.640 --> 00:21:43.800
that means that they're willing to lose

583
00:21:44.163 --> 00:21:47.730
half whoever they have or more of

584
00:21:47.790 --> 00:21:49.470
of coming after you with it or

585
00:21:49.470 --> 00:21:52.050
come after you with literally overwhelming odds

586
00:21:52.950 --> 00:21:55.740
it it's it's basic infantry tactics again

587
00:21:55.740 --> 00:21:57.907
where you you attack with a a

588
00:21:57.925 --> 00:21:59.670
size up right if they

589
00:21:59.670 --> 00:22:01.470
no it's just you you go after

590
00:22:01.470 --> 00:22:04.170
just you with men right if you're

591
00:22:04.170 --> 00:22:05.762
going after an individual you attack with

592
00:22:05.762 --> 00:22:07.470
a fireteam if you're attacking a fire

593
00:22:07.470 --> 00:22:08.490
team you go after them with a

594
00:22:08.490 --> 00:22:10.650
squad if you're attacking a squad sized

595
00:22:10.680 --> 00:22:12.180
element you attack them with a platoon

596
00:22:12.900 --> 00:22:15.570
again or they drop mortars on your

597
00:22:15.570 --> 00:22:19.080
elbow or or you utilize the advanced

598
00:22:19.080 --> 00:22:19.830
weapons because

599
00:22:19.834 --> 00:22:22.290
you have a combined arms assets and

600
00:22:23.070 --> 00:22:25.380
your guys at risk that yeah that

601
00:22:25.710 --> 00:22:27.720
up that one up assumes that you

602
00:22:27.720 --> 00:22:30.000
do not have other combined arms assets

603
00:22:30.420 --> 00:22:33.150
yeah exactly and so this is the

604
00:22:33.150 --> 00:22:34.200
sort of thing these are the sort

605
00:22:34.200 --> 00:22:35.220
of things that we think about it

606
00:22:35.220 --> 00:22:36.600
too in the morning she changed the

607
00:22:36.600 --> 00:22:39.210
subject ever so slightly speaking of ah

608
00:22:39.360 --> 00:22:39.990
silly things

609
00:22:40.080 --> 00:22:42.060
that we spent money on so i

610
00:22:42.060 --> 00:22:44.400
bought this on the internet with money

611
00:22:44.400 --> 00:22:46.020
and if you guys aren't watching the

612
00:22:46.020 --> 00:22:48.150
video version of this this is a

613
00:22:48.150 --> 00:22:50.490
piano eighteen sixty three pocket it is

614
00:22:50.490 --> 00:22:52.890
a thirty one caliber black powder pistol

615
00:22:53.250 --> 00:22:55.230
and i bought it because there is

616
00:22:55.230 --> 00:22:57.570
a thing that exists out there called

617
00:22:57.570 --> 00:23:00.000
a conversion cylinder which allows me to

618
00:23:00.000 --> 00:23:00.150
show

619
00:23:00.150 --> 00:23:01.800
route thirty two long out of there

620
00:23:01.860 --> 00:23:04.862
i just hate the existing center and

621
00:23:04.862 --> 00:23:06.690
i put in the five shot thirty

622
00:23:06.690 --> 00:23:09.060
two long cylinder and now i have

623
00:23:09.090 --> 00:23:11.970
a gun that shoots bullets that you

624
00:23:11.970 --> 00:23:13.260
can literally get shipped to your front

625
00:23:13.260 --> 00:23:14.670
door and actually does fit in a

626
00:23:14.670 --> 00:23:17.730
pocket like would i carry this no

627
00:23:17.880 --> 00:23:19.530
should i have access to a gold

628
00:23:19.530 --> 00:23:20.310
money on

629
00:23:20.310 --> 00:23:22.050
also no because this is the sort

630
00:23:22.050 --> 00:23:23.670
of thing that i buy with my

631
00:23:23.670 --> 00:23:27.630
adult money is black powder revolvers that

632
00:23:27.630 --> 00:23:30.210
have no trigger guard like how gangster

633
00:23:30.240 --> 00:23:31.800
like when you think about how gangster

634
00:23:31.800 --> 00:23:33.180
this sort of thing is right yeah

635
00:23:33.180 --> 00:23:36.090
xander year that's a frickin like bar

636
00:23:36.090 --> 00:23:40.056
keepers special also yeah little little revolver

637
00:23:40.080 --> 00:23:40.260
or

638
00:23:40.470 --> 00:23:43.170
visit its single action but i guarantee

639
00:23:43.170 --> 00:23:44.670
everybody who back in the day who

640
00:23:44.670 --> 00:23:45.840
pulled one of these out of their

641
00:23:45.840 --> 00:23:48.150
boobs or their pocket had their finger

642
00:23:48.150 --> 00:23:51.150
basically already on that stud and they

643
00:23:51.150 --> 00:23:52.800
would just pocket and just rip it

644
00:23:52.800 --> 00:23:55.470
and i'm like alright i can't imagine

645
00:23:55.470 --> 00:23:57.450
how anemic the ballistics on this must

646
00:23:57.450 --> 00:24:00.300
have been like a thirty grain thirty

647
00:24:00.300 --> 00:24:00.596
one

648
00:24:00.630 --> 00:24:01.620
caliber bullet like

649
00:24:03.390 --> 00:24:08.520
the ah it makes long rifle look

650
00:24:08.520 --> 00:24:12.876
downright punchy grey day like lowering discipline

651
00:24:12.981 --> 00:24:15.360
delivery of a twenty five a cp

652
00:24:15.390 --> 00:24:16.860
dwarfs this guide

653
00:24:19.230 --> 00:24:21.210
man you know it's amazing rubber buy

654
00:24:21.210 --> 00:24:22.740
a gun that made the thirty tube

655
00:24:22.770 --> 00:24:25.020
sep look like an absolute monster

656
00:24:26.220 --> 00:24:29.220
yes i have as a matter of

657
00:24:29.250 --> 00:24:30.540
you know it is amazing like

658
00:24:31.650 --> 00:24:33.600
how we rediscovered that twenty two long

659
00:24:33.600 --> 00:24:35.760
rifle kinda doesn't suck for shooting people

660
00:24:35.760 --> 00:24:37.590
add thirty two sep kind of doesn't

661
00:24:37.590 --> 00:24:39.990
suck for shooting people and but we're

662
00:24:39.990 --> 00:24:41.940
also unanimously in agreement that twenty five

663
00:24:41.940 --> 00:24:43.200
acps dog turds

664
00:24:44.310 --> 00:24:44.850
both

665
00:24:46.740 --> 00:24:49.080
look nose just because just because we've

666
00:24:49.080 --> 00:24:51.030
swung back around on the pendulum on

667
00:24:51.030 --> 00:24:52.500
a couple of calibers that it's like

668
00:24:52.500 --> 00:24:55.140
no no these are okay yeah i

669
00:24:55.200 --> 00:24:56.730
would i would fucks with these

670
00:24:57.780 --> 00:24:59.100
does it mean all of them got

671
00:24:59.100 --> 00:25:00.810
the redemption arc that had all come

672
00:25:00.810 --> 00:25:03.660
back some of them worse were and

673
00:25:03.660 --> 00:25:06.450
still are terrible ideas yet twenty five

674
00:25:06.450 --> 00:25:08.250
sep is always a bad idea guys

675
00:25:08.490 --> 00:25:09.900
take it from someone who knows a

676
00:25:09.900 --> 00:25:11.693
little bit about carrying a twenty five

677
00:25:11.700 --> 00:25:13.830
sep this guy i care to twenty

678
00:25:13.830 --> 00:25:17.490
five i strongly would not recommend it

679
00:25:17.490 --> 00:25:17.910
under n

680
00:25:17.910 --> 00:25:21.960
the circumstances especially because you you don't

681
00:25:21.960 --> 00:25:24.360
have to also because well who wants

682
00:25:24.660 --> 00:25:26.610
it who's even making twenty fives any

683
00:25:26.610 --> 00:25:27.000
more

684
00:25:29.010 --> 00:25:30.540
his brightest know the bread is not

685
00:25:30.540 --> 00:25:32.100
megan there's no way cause that's not

686
00:25:32.100 --> 00:25:32.490
sell

687
00:25:33.510 --> 00:25:36.450
let's see ah keith any thoughts on

688
00:25:37.050 --> 00:25:38.670
last last one one and i'll get

689
00:25:38.670 --> 00:25:39.870
your comment on this we're talking about

690
00:25:39.870 --> 00:25:41.700
industry trends on a work call the

691
00:25:41.700 --> 00:25:45.240
other day and obviously the firearm side

692
00:25:45.240 --> 00:25:47.100
of things i hate go buy some

693
00:25:47.100 --> 00:25:49.290
guns people like cleese go buy guns

694
00:25:49.290 --> 00:25:50.940
like dealing in keith and you know

695
00:25:50.940 --> 00:25:52.620
spend your disposable income on guns you

696
00:25:52.620 --> 00:25:53.664
don't need we

697
00:25:53.730 --> 00:25:55.260
would all very much a british era

698
00:25:55.350 --> 00:25:56.760
there are a lot of really good

699
00:25:56.760 --> 00:25:59.700
deals going on right now in the

700
00:25:59.700 --> 00:26:02.880
space and yeah you should take advantage

701
00:26:02.880 --> 00:26:05.070
of those because costs and a lot

702
00:26:05.070 --> 00:26:07.740
of stuff that i wanted came down

703
00:26:07.740 --> 00:26:10.620
significantly so that's what i have earned

704
00:26:10.620 --> 00:26:13.050
yeah i have birds disposable income on

705
00:26:13.050 --> 00:26:13.200
it

706
00:26:14.010 --> 00:26:17.070
so go do that but yahoo isn't

707
00:26:17.070 --> 00:26:19.347
fun in the summer you know who's

708
00:26:19.347 --> 00:26:21.270
not in that same situation right now

709
00:26:21.570 --> 00:26:25.110
suppressor companies they cannot make cans fast

710
00:26:25.110 --> 00:26:27.270
enough the guys at silencer shop are

711
00:26:27.270 --> 00:26:29.160
like grabbing the best summer ever like

712
00:26:29.160 --> 00:26:33.990
just cancer survivors are lying i

713
00:26:33.990 --> 00:26:35.910
i added a suppressor to my cart

714
00:26:35.910 --> 00:26:39.390
on silencer shop two days ago and

715
00:26:39.390 --> 00:26:40.440
i was like hey let me double

716
00:26:40.440 --> 00:26:41.730
check my budget make sure we're good

717
00:26:41.730 --> 00:26:43.560
to go the next day i went

718
00:26:43.560 --> 00:26:44.670
to pay for it and it had

719
00:26:44.670 --> 00:26:46.440
been they were out of stock like

720
00:26:46.440 --> 00:26:49.710
gone i was like what like suppressors

721
00:26:49.710 --> 00:26:50.917
like so if you're working for a

722
00:26:50.917 --> 00:26:54.150
suppression manufacturer or special retailer good job

723
00:26:54.300 --> 00:26:56.100
you're having a good summer and i

724
00:26:56.100 --> 00:26:57.510
do wonder how many of like the

725
00:26:57.510 --> 00:27:00.630
local gun shops that didn't do class

726
00:27:00.630 --> 00:27:02.820
three stuff are like ooh we should

727
00:27:03.060 --> 00:27:05.040
god have gotten our sh ts and

728
00:27:05.040 --> 00:27:06.660
we can be selling cans right now

729
00:27:06.750 --> 00:27:09.000
they there there are a lot of

730
00:27:09.000 --> 00:27:11.310
local shop that i would not be

731
00:27:11.310 --> 00:27:13.980
surprised is if we if we see

732
00:27:13.980 --> 00:27:14.310
some new

733
00:27:14.310 --> 00:27:15.840
numbers and if we dig into them

734
00:27:16.170 --> 00:27:18.990
do with a tf and whatnot that

735
00:27:19.110 --> 00:27:22.500
the shops that issued the ability to

736
00:27:22.500 --> 00:27:26.340
run nfl items and we we see

737
00:27:26.340 --> 00:27:28.320
a lot of those have closed and

738
00:27:28.320 --> 00:27:30.000
twenty four that they they were not

739
00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:32.340
running the products people wanted people wanted

740
00:27:32.340 --> 00:27:34.436
cans people especially wanted kansas

741
00:27:34.530 --> 00:27:36.090
as cans started turning around at the

742
00:27:36.090 --> 00:27:38.730
speed of background checks yeah exactly like

743
00:27:38.730 --> 00:27:40.860
i can go buy a suppressor tomorrow

744
00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:42.450
and pick it up in like two

745
00:27:42.450 --> 00:27:44.700
three days like commands which i've thought

746
00:27:44.700 --> 00:27:46.050
about do i know i should just

747
00:27:46.050 --> 00:27:47.430
go to my local retailer and get

748
00:27:47.430 --> 00:27:48.724
a can from them cause they have

749
00:27:48.724 --> 00:27:48.870
them

750
00:27:50.160 --> 00:27:52.230
or anywhere that actually has them in

751
00:27:52.230 --> 00:27:54.180
stock physically that's the place to go

752
00:27:54.180 --> 00:27:57.300
right now i went in online applications

753
00:27:57.300 --> 00:27:58.590
are swifty

754
00:27:59.820 --> 00:28:01.620
i went and did i went to

755
00:28:01.680 --> 00:28:04.050
my local our sfl the guy get

756
00:28:04.050 --> 00:28:06.870
my transfers from slash and at gun

757
00:28:06.870 --> 00:28:08.070
range and i was

758
00:28:09.870 --> 00:28:11.520
a little concerned by the amount of

759
00:28:11.520 --> 00:28:13.620
inventory they had you know cause so

760
00:28:13.950 --> 00:28:15.480
my wife and i moved up here

761
00:28:15.480 --> 00:28:18.450
in twenty twenty years during coded twenty

762
00:28:18.450 --> 00:28:19.830
twenty one i remember going in there

763
00:28:19.830 --> 00:28:21.630
and they would have the shelves and

764
00:28:21.630 --> 00:28:23.190
they did a good job of keeping

765
00:28:23.190 --> 00:28:26.760
guns in inventory by the amount of

766
00:28:26.910 --> 00:28:28.590
just product that they have on the

767
00:28:28.590 --> 00:28:29.430
shelves right now is

768
00:28:29.460 --> 00:28:29.850
like

769
00:28:30.900 --> 00:28:32.580
as someone who owned a retail outlet

770
00:28:32.580 --> 00:28:33.240
i was like ooh

771
00:28:34.590 --> 00:28:37.500
ever a an inventory in here but

772
00:28:37.830 --> 00:28:39.960
they're smart they have a range as

773
00:28:39.960 --> 00:28:42.540
a revenue driver so you know they've

774
00:28:42.540 --> 00:28:44.880
got that alternate revenue stream from the

775
00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:46.800
gun range we are it's an interesting

776
00:28:46.800 --> 00:28:48.840
time to be slinging guns across the

777
00:28:48.840 --> 00:28:50.550
cables these days boy is until you

778
00:28:50.550 --> 00:28:52.380
would until you would

779
00:28:53.610 --> 00:28:57.330
it'd be interesting the wild streets yeah

780
00:28:57.938 --> 00:28:59.250
did you be wild in the streets

781
00:28:59.460 --> 00:29:00.840
but it's less wild that he got

782
00:29:00.840 --> 00:29:03.390
a fuckin colt commando clone guys

783
00:29:04.470 --> 00:29:06.390
that the seventies are back on the

784
00:29:06.390 --> 00:29:07.200
menu boys

785
00:29:08.310 --> 00:29:10.680
oh we got ogs and commandos i'm

786
00:29:10.680 --> 00:29:12.720
gonna go rob his armor mars let's

787
00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:15.150
go alright well that is it for

788
00:29:15.150 --> 00:29:17.850
this week everyone thank you very much

789
00:29:17.850 --> 00:29:19.860
for liking sharing subscribing doing all of

790
00:29:19.860 --> 00:29:22.620
those things then please make sure you

791
00:29:22.620 --> 00:29:25.140
continue to do that it looses signal

792
00:29:25.170 --> 00:29:26.910
apparently i should be doing this thing

793
00:29:26.910 --> 00:29:27.960
this bit at the top of the

794
00:29:27.960 --> 00:29:28.470
episode

795
00:29:28.920 --> 00:29:30.240
instead of the back of the episode

796
00:29:30.300 --> 00:29:31.560
maybe i'll do that next week but

797
00:29:31.560 --> 00:29:33.900
today is not that day and tomorrow's

798
00:29:33.900 --> 00:29:34.800
not looking good